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To: sionnsar

I deeply appreciate the anguish alice is showing. I am very sorry to see her getting cut off from the Church she loves. I would be a lot more empathetic if I didn't have to countenance her position. It's like listening to complaints from illegal immigrants: sure you're not being fully welcomed, yes it's tough to get a job without getting exposed to the Feds, I can see how the environment is disorienting, but, tell me, Ms. Priestess: exactly what part of unScriptural are you having difficulty understanding?

You took your orders knowing that there was no precedent for female ordination into the sacramental ministry. You were quite willing to breach the unity of the Church in pursuit of what you personally viewed as God's call and in despite of any good advice to the contrary. So it's a little late to complain that those your lawless action empowered now turn on you.

I am deeply saddened by the tone I have used here and I ask your prayers to cope with it, but sometimes it does feel like a bit of rebuke must be aired. Jerome wasn't always wrong, I think.

In Christ,
Deacon Paul+


5 posted on 04/02/2005 3:17:55 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (Having a human friend is no bed of roses-but hobbits? That's very different. :))
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To: BelegStrongbow; sionnsar

"If you wish to correct anyone from his faults, do not think of correcting him solely by your own means: you would only do harm by your own passions, for instance, by pride and by the irritability arising from it; 'but cast thy burden upon the Lord,' (Ps. 55:22) and pray to God 'Who trieth the hearts and reins,' (Ps. 7:9) with all your heart, that He Himself may enlighten the mind and heart of that man." St. Gregory Palamas (On Prayer and Purity of Heart no. 3, The Philokalia


6 posted on 04/02/2005 5:33:12 AM PST by Kolokotronis ("Set a guard over my mouth, O Lord; keep watch over the door of my lips!" (Psalm 141:3))
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To: BelegStrongbow

" I pray that you will not succeed in your attempts to take them (the children) from this orthodox house."

I'm not sure how you equate her desire to have her attempts to keep her family in the orthodox house to illegal aliens being unhappy about not being fully welcomed. How do you take this to a dubious argument about her unScriptural-ness?


7 posted on 04/02/2005 6:18:57 AM PST by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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