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1 posted on 03/21/2005 1:36:30 PM PST by 1 spark
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; malakhi; ET(end tyranny); nmh

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2 posted on 03/21/2005 1:38:54 PM PST by 1 spark (see my links)
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There are many Jews today that believe that Jesus is the Christ and their promised deliverer. In fact, Jesus had multitudes of Jewish followers and the entire Bible is written by Jews. It is written in the Holy Scriptures that Salvation comes through the Jews. Jesus Christ is a Jew. In fact, it was the leadership of Israel in Jesus' day when He walked on earth that did not accept Him,(the Pharisees and Sadducees because they did not want to give up their power to Him), BUT WITHOUT A DOUBT, THEY KNEW WHO HE WAS!!

In the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus said unto them:

"But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, 'O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to
come?"


3 posted on 03/21/2005 1:56:14 PM PST by Daisy4
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"If God saw no need then for a sacrificial Christ, why would there ever be a need?"

To fulfill the law? Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin. The law was fulfilled with the shedding of the blood of the perfect sacrifice, the lamb without spot or blemish.

After the perfect sacrifice was offered, who is man to think that any further sacrifice (other than a broken heart and a contrite spirit) he can make is greater?

To attempt to do so would be to try to please God with a lesser sacrifice and would be a return to the law, as a dog to its vomit and would make the Crucifixion of no effect for you.

I think the Jews were the only ones who understood that concept back then, and that made it harder for them to lay down the sacrificial aspects of their worship, having had it ingrained for centuries. Salvation came much easier to those who were not under those laws, as they had less religious programming to overcome.

But it seems it was planned that way, as the hesitancy of the church to accept the fulfilling of prophecy was responsible for the invitation of the gentiles out on the highways and biways to attend the wedding.

But not to worry. The Jews will be the most joyous when their day comes. Well nigh upon us, in my opinion.

6 posted on 03/21/2005 2:45:24 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: 1 spark

Thanx for posting this Spark. There are alot of things that exist in Hebrew Scriptures that Christians oftentimes and mistakenly think are revolutionary concepts that began with Jesus. Such as the "born-again" experience (Teshuva)andmercy/grace.


7 posted on 03/21/2005 6:08:40 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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If God saw no need then for a sacrificial Christ, why would there ever be a need?

That's why God gave us the book of Hebrews. It explains the reasons to the Jews of the day.

36 posted on 03/22/2005 6:42:30 AM PST by asformeandformyhouse (Former Embryo - Former Fetus - Recovering Sinner)
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The apostle Paul, who originated the most distinctive ideas in Christianity, taught that salvation is not something you buy with deeds — in particular, not with the Torah's system of 613 commandments, whose practice he explained could now be discarded

I think it's very debatable whether Paul ever said any such thing.

What he did say was that the ceremonial aspects of the Law, as distinct from the natural law morality aspects, did not need to be imposed on the Gentiles, as some in his day argued. (IOW, Gentiles did not need to first become Jews in order to become Christians.) That's different from saying that they "could now be discarded".

Nobody has followed the whole Law since the Temple was destroyed anyway, though.

40 posted on 03/22/2005 10:50:26 AM PST by Campion
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To: 1 spark

They don't believe Christ is their Messiah and they don't like being conncected to His death in any way shape or form.


49 posted on 03/22/2005 6:39:24 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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For study.


81 posted on 03/23/2005 10:04:09 AM PST by farmfriend ( Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?!?)
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To: 1 spark

Why Jews don't see Easter the way Christians do?

Peeps aren't kosher


107 posted on 03/23/2005 2:06:26 PM PST by WhiteGuy ("a taxpayer dollar must be spent wisely, or not at all" - GW BUSH </sarcasm>)
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To: 1 spark

Hmm .. would Jesus have something to do with it?

In related news: Bunnies have a different outlook on Easter than Chickens... film at 11.


113 posted on 03/23/2005 5:36:47 PM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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ping


125 posted on 03/24/2005 11:29:09 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: 1 spark; Invincibly Ignorant; malakhi; ET(end tyranny); nmh

Invincibly Ignorant; malakhi; ET(end tyranny); nmh

 

 

The real question is why do so-called Christians fail to celebrate Passover

And instead celebrate the Pagan holiday created by the first Leader of the Roman church,

The Pagan Emperor Constantine.

Constantine as the world leader convened the Council at Nice, which made it anathema

to celebrate Passover and instead created the Pagan feast of Easter.

 

HaSatan must be pleased.

 

See   Christmas And Easter.pdf     

 

B’shem Y’shua

chuck


128 posted on 03/25/2005 8:24:37 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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Thanks. This is a very enlightening article. I'll still evangalize, but it shows how close the Jews and Christians are in belief.


138 posted on 03/28/2005 5:34:18 PM PST by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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155 posted on 03/29/2005 1:16:48 PM PST by jla
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