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Ugley Puritans [Anglican Left]
Thinking Anglicans ^ | 3/12/2005 | Simon Sarmiento

Posted on 03/13/2005 8:30:02 AM PST by sionnsar

The Telegraph reports today in Clergymen refuse communion with bishop in row over gays that

…at least eight conservative clerics have told the Bishop of Chelmsford, the Rt Rev John Gladwin, that they will refuse to share Holy Communion with him. They are furious that the bishop and five of his colleagues sent a letter to a national newspaper earlier this week announcing their determined support for liberal Anglicans in North America…

That would be a reference to this letter in The Times in which the bishops merely said:

…We remain in full sacramental fellowship with all the churches of the Anglican Communion, including those of Canada and the US, and we seek to remain in full communion with all of them…

which is of course a simple statement of fact that applies to every single member of the Church of England at the present time, whether they like it or not, including those objectors in Chelmsford. Clearly that favourite term of conservative evangelicals the plain meaning

of the words has escaped them. Individual members of Anglican Communion churches do not have the luxury of deciding for themselves who they are in communion with.

The newspaper list among the eight people the clergy of the Henham, Elsenham, & Ugley benefice, John Richardson and Richard Farr. Mr Farr is best known for his refusal to allow the use of his church hall for a yoga class. His own account of this event can be read here.


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant
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[1. The title is not a typo. One of the locales is Ugley, Essex, UK.
2. Interesting point: "You will be in communion with whomever we say you are in communion with!"
--sionnsar]

1 posted on 03/13/2005 8:30:02 AM PST by sionnsar
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2 posted on 03/13/2005 8:30:34 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: sionnsar

The Reverend Mr Farr is Right on about yoga -- and for my money about the other, too.

He is knowingly in communion with no apostates -- and nor am I!


3 posted on 03/13/2005 8:44:31 AM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: sionnsar
"Individual members of Anglican Communion churches do not have the luxury of deciding for themselves who they are in communion with."

You know, canonically, the author is probably right as far as any individual clerical or laity member of the CoA is concerned. This isn't to say that such persons cannot leave the CoA, but to the extent they remain members of the CoA, they are in communion with whomsoever their bishop is. If these priests "break communion" with their bishops, they become what we call "vagantes", a canonically irregular status, until they come under the omophorion of another canonical bishop.
4 posted on 03/13/2005 10:10:15 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: sionnsar
The Village That Voted The Earth Was Flat

Art imitates life.

Or, as one of Kipling's characters in the story says, "Curse Nature! She gets ahead of you every time!"

5 posted on 03/13/2005 10:22:39 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: sionnsar
Rom 1: 26: "...For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet..."

Anyone having any trouble with the plain meaning?
6 posted on 03/13/2005 10:37:22 AM PST by farmer18th
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