Devoted to the past

The Sacramento Bee | February 26, 2005 | Jennifer Garza

[murphE]

The majority of the parishioners at St. Stephen are middleclass families in their 30s and 40s, dispelling the myth that only the elderly nostalgic for their past would be interested in attending such a Mass. The typical family has five or six children, according to Berg. Most of those kids are home-schooled by their mothers.

BTTT

[Pyro7480]

Traditional Catholic ping!

[Gerard.P]

Did you catch the picture with the kid "holding back a yawn"? There's always a little shot somewhere.

[Salvation]

But we live in the present -- not the past!

[murphE]

Truth doesn't change.

[AlbionGirl]

The Parish where Latin Mass can be heard here, is in the lower middle class section of town. And there are young and old, and middle aged like myself. Although, the Mass attracts nowhere near the number of people that the closest NO Mass does.

The younger families do seem to have several children, and there's nothing more beautiful than seeing a woman with all of her jewels in tow, it never ceases to touch me. Also, I've always loved hearing the cooing of a baby at Mass. It comforts me and puts a great smile on my face. The chant of a baby; precious!

The Latin Mass Community is like that voice crying in the wilderness, but I don't think it will survive. It's a voice that many of those in power consider a throwback that must be tolerated until it withers on the vine.

The powers that be will remain the powers that be, and that bodes well for the 'progressives', but bodes ill for the Traditionalists, IMO.

[murphE]

Yes I saw that, but let's compare that stifled yawn to what goes on at NO masses, just to be fair. Besides he was probably up late practicing his Latin prayers. ;-)

[AlbionGirl]

Thanks for the ping.

[kjvail]

Am I not on your list anymore?

This parish sound's alot like my parish in demographics. Interesting to the article talks about priests praying in a language "few understand". I've picked up a ton of Latin in just 1 year of attending the TLM, I'm hardly claiming that I could have a conversation in it with a native speaker (if such existed) or anything but I can follow even without my missal. Immersion is the best way to learn, go to daily mass!

If you don't pick it up you aren't really trying, it's not hard.

[Cato1]

Thanks - great article will add it to my website

SF Latin Mass - Just had to get a plug in.

[Pyro7480]

Thanks for correcting me. You weren't on my ping list for that.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

St. Stephen is the only diocesan-approved church in Northern California - some say in the state - that celebrates only the Latin Mass, sometimes called a Tridentine Mass.

I believe Vigneron brought in a Christ the King priest in Oakland. I think the entire parish is traditional. I heard rumors Una Voce wants to bring FSSP to Fresno.

[Pyro7480]

You are right. There is an Institute priest at St. Margaret Mary's. But unlike the Institute's other parishes in the U.S., they also have the Novus Ordo there.

[annalex]

Every day I post a side-by-side of the English and Latin gospel for that day. It is a good way to familiarize yourself with Latin. A short primer on the Latin grammar and a daily dose of Latin gospel would put you in the comfort zone vis-a-vis this eternal language.

To access my side-by-sides, get on Salvation's ping list: (Catholic Caucus; I usually post the Latin gospel in the evening of the same day).

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

But unlike the Institute's other parishes in the U.S., they also have the Novus Ordo there.

Do they? nick and I were debating this the other day.

[Pyro7480]

St. Margaret Mary, Oakland, CA Mass Schedule

[nickcarraway]

They still do have Novus Ordo Masses, but they have a full time traditional priest now, and they have all the Sacraments with the traditional rite. Previously, they only had the traditional Mass on Sunday, now it's every day.

[nickcarraway]

Is that your site?

[siunevada]

"I think the original intention of allowing the Tridentine Mass was to satisfy the needs of the people who had grown up with it and were attached to it," Reese says. "The thought was that the next generation would grow up attending English Mass, and the Latin Mass would fade away. I don't think anyone foresaw young families being attracted to it."

I guess Father means the vernacular language Mass, since English is the native language for a small minority of Catholics. I was in the pews a few months back with a man from Mexico and English didn't mean a thing to him.

Too bad we didn't apply Vatican II in a different manner:

36. 1. Particular law remaining in force, the use of the Latin language is to be preserved in the Latin rites.

If we could have said some of the prayers in Latin, we would have both known what we were saying.