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Murdered Catholic Priest Knew Too Much?
Catholic Online ^ | March 3, 2004 | Matt Abbott

Posted on 03/04/2005 5:49:20 PM PST by donbosco74

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To: Ethan_Allen

I have heard of this story before. Dont know enough to say if its totally valid, but things like this have happened. The victims rarely talk.........or if they do tend to die or disappear.


21 posted on 03/05/2005 6:17:31 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux!)
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To: thor76

Bumping in honor of Father Kunz and praying that his murderer(s) will be brought to justice.


22 posted on 03/05/2005 7:20:01 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: annalex
May we have his courage.

What "not fearful of the killer" means in this context is that Fr. Kunz probably knew his murderer....
23 posted on 03/05/2005 8:33:49 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Antoninus

The investigators drew the conclusions important to them. They want to catch the murderer, so they conclude that the murderer came from a close circle.

I see the same fact, that the martyr was not fearful of the killer and reach the conclusion important to me, that Father Kuntz was a courageous man. This is what the phrase literally says, and his steadfast defense of the faith provides the corroborative context.


24 posted on 03/06/2005 1:52:37 AM PST by annalex
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To: annalex
I see the same fact, that the martyr was not fearful of the killer and reach the conclusion important to me, that Father Kuntz was a courageous man.

I can't argue with that. He certainly was.
25 posted on 03/06/2005 8:13:14 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Ethan_Allen

Thanks for the help, Ethan_Allen.


26 posted on 03/07/2005 6:36:40 AM PST by donbosco74 ("Men and devils make war on me in this great city." (Paris) --St. Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort)
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To: thor76
The trail leads back to South Carolina.

Let he who hath understanding learn.

Windswept House

27 posted on 03/07/2005 2:32:01 PM PST by St. Johann Tetzel (Rule One! No Poofters!)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

"Bishop Leo" was a real person. And there is a traceable line of succession.


28 posted on 03/07/2005 3:58:30 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux!)
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To: donbosco74

I was just doing some research and and once again was led to one of your prior columns. I've since then bookmarked renewamerica. If you have a ping list, then I would very much appreciate it if you could add me. Thanks!

How absolutely wonderful that Mel got to speak with Sr. Lucia before her passing. I knew he had done much research on Anne Catherine Emmerich who had traveled in the spiritual world but verifying with Sr. Lucia of the message of Fatima is an added bonus in regards to the Passion.

In regards to Emmerich -

1Corinthians 15:44 It is sown a natural body, it shall rise a spiritual body. If there be a natural body, there is also a spiritual body, as it is written.

Biblical Seers or Prophets who are said to have "dreamt" actually travel outside of their body to the spiritual world to see and return. Fascinating subject!


29 posted on 03/14/2005 3:24:44 PM PST by MonitorMaid (It is not freedom which permits the Trojan Horse to be wheeled within the gates...)
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To: donbosco74
This is the first I've heard of the cattle sacrifice you mention. There is a strong suspicion among the people who knew him that something rather conspicuously satanic was employed on that dark day.

The calf sacrifice happened exactly 24 hours prior to his death. Slice the throat/drain the blood and sacrifice to their god. Some farmers/owners do not even report and those that have just regard it as a ritual of a satanic cult. It happens all over the world. Some extreme elements of a particular religion still believe in this sacrifice. I strongly believe Kunz knew too much...they used the calf and Kunz as an offering. Kunz had his throat sliced as well.

Was Christ offered blood at The Last Supper?

30 posted on 03/14/2005 3:57:16 PM PST by MonitorMaid (It is not freedom which permits the Trojan Horse to be wheeled within the gates...)
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To: thor76
Yes, Kunz was a personal friend, confidant, and source to Martin in general, and specificly for Windswept house

I'm of the mindset that Martin's Windswept House was a dis-information campaign. Is it possible that he could have been misleading Kunz?

31 posted on 03/14/2005 4:24:34 PM PST by MonitorMaid (It is not freedom which permits the Trojan Horse to be wheeled within the gates...)
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To: MonitorMaid

I don't have a ping list, sorry. But thanks for the friendly response!

Mel wanted very much to have lots of time with Sister Lucy, but he's lucky he got any at all. They say it took some hundred e-mails back and forth to set it up. We have people here who know Mel, and it's not too hard to get a message to him. But Sister Lucy is another story. The Portugese newspaper finally verified the rumors that everything Sr. Lucy had said for years had been filtered through her superiors and the Vatican. It was a long time ago that her private letters to people, in which she said some very revealing things, were published without Vatican censorship and revisionism.

When I heard that Mel had had a meeting with her, I thought that might be the first of a series over time. Next thing we heard was she passed away. It was a shock. Now there are conflicting stories about Gibson making a movie about Fatima. It could be that he's trying to debunk rumors so that he can keep the pressure off. Remember the hassles he got over the filming of The Passion: they had started their propaganda campaign before there was any film to criticize, using a stolen early draft of the script! He had to threaten to sue them for libel.

What you say about the out-of-body topic is kind of true. But it's also very dangerous, so watch out. I have met people who assured me they have had such experiences, even showing me physical marks on their bodies to prove it. Often times their experience is associated with narcotics. But there are credible warnings from those who know the worst side of religion that the devil uses such experiences to his advantage, if possible. In fact, anyone who has such an experience had better also have a very good priest for a confessor, lest he be deceived.

We ought to listen to St. John of the Cross, who was very familiar with mysticism. He warned the faithful to avoid it at all cost because it is so dangerous.


32 posted on 03/14/2005 4:51:25 PM PST by donbosco74 ("Men and devils make war on me in this great city." (Paris) --St. Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort.)
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To: MonitorMaid

Martin was a compiler. I don't think of him as being the source of Kunz's information, but that rather Kunz was supplying Martin with information. Kunz had had a long career of handling very sensitive cases, while Martin was busy writing books. Martin had connections, but he was not in the thick of the action. He relied on his connections for new data, and I think that Kunz was such a connection for him, not necessarily for Windswept House, but in general.

What Martin wrote had to be fictionalized so as to protect the identity of his sources. People could get into serious trouble if their giving of info to such as Martin was discovered. People could be killed...like Fr. Kunz was!


33 posted on 03/14/2005 5:27:43 PM PST by donbosco74 ("Men and devils make war on me in this great city." (Paris) --St. Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort.)
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