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The Anglican Communion Primates’ Meeting Communiqué, February 2005 [Anglicans Suspend ECUSA and ACC]
The Anglican Communion News Service ^

Posted on 02/24/2005 2:45:29 PM PST by tjwmason

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To: Tax-chick
It's as bad as the Revenue Code of Texas!

Didn't you know ? You only need to file if you are a resident of DC or a Federal employee.

21 posted on 02/24/2005 4:54:29 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: plushaye
The ACC leadership has now been lumped in the same boat with ECUSA

Maybe the ACC should team up with ECUSA to develop an anti-traditionalist Anglican missile defense shield for North America! :-)

22 posted on 02/24/2005 4:55:48 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: tjwmason
From the Presiding Bishop:

The primates of the Anglican Communion and Moderators of the United Churches have just completed their work on the attached communiqué which gives some sense of our meeting this week in Northern Ireland.  These days have not been easy for any of us and the communiqué reflects a great deal of prayer and the strong desire to find a way forward as a Communion in the midst of deep differences which have been brought into sharp relief around the subject of homosexuality.
 
Clearly, all parts of the communiqué will not please everyone.  It is important to keep in mind that it was written with a view to making room for a wide variety of perspectives.  I continue to have faith and confidence in the many ways in which the mystery of communion is lived among us, and am grateful that bonds of understanding and affection to bind us together and call us to an ever deeper and more costly living out of the reconciliation brought about by Jesus through the Cross. Again this week it was revealed that so much more unites us than divides us.
 
The Presiding Bishop will make a further comment tomorrow.

The Primates’ Meeting, February 2005 Communiqué

23 posted on 02/24/2005 5:02:30 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

http://demo.episcopalchurch.org/3577_58743_ENG_HTM.htm?menu=undefined


24 posted on 02/24/2005 5:02:46 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: tjwmason
Wonderful news for St. Matthias Day!

Early this morning I posted the proper Collect and lessons for the day. This action is truly the fulfillment of the prayer:

Almighty God, you chose your faithful servant Mattias to be numbered among the twelve. Grant that your Church, being delivered from false apostles, may always be taught and guided by faithful and true pastors; through your Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, one God, now and forever.

25 posted on 02/24/2005 5:05:52 PM PST by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: tjwmason
Dear friends,
 
Please find below the official response from Anglican Mainstream and from the AAC / Network.
 
God Bless,
 
Peter Ould
Anglican Mainstream
 
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Primates Statement - Anglican Mainstream Response
25th February 2005

We are grateful to God and to the Primates for the prayerful and considered way in which they have addressed the serious issues facing the Anglican Communion.

We welcome their strong endorsement of Lambeth 1:10 as the standard of Christian teaching on matters of human sexuality and their endorsement of the general thrust of the Windsor Report, including specifically the central place Anglicans accord to the authority of scripture and of 'autonomy-in-communion' as the balanced exercise of inter-dependence.

We support their request that ECUSA and the Anglican Church of Canada voluntarily withdraw from the Communion for the three years leading up to Lambeth 2008

We further support their request to their fellow bishops for a moratorium on public Rites of Blessing for same-sex unions and on the consecration of any bishop living in a sexual relationship outside Christian marriage.

We also support their request that the Archbishop of Canterbury establishes a panel of reference to supervise the adequacy of pastoral provisions for groups in 'serious theological dispute' with their diocesan bishop or dioceses in dispute with their Provinces.

We agree that further, careful work is needed on the concept and content of the proposed Covenant and share their caution about an overriding international jurisdiction for the Archbishop of Canterbury.

We trust that all members of our Churches, and their leaders, will respond positively to the Primates' strategy for repairing the tear in the Communion and thus enable us to address with renewed vigour our common mission to share the love of Christ with a needy and hurting world.

Philip Giddings
Convenor
Anglican Mainstream UK

Contact

Dr Philip Giddings:  0118 378 8207 (office hours);  0118 954 3892 (home)
                             0790 557 2479 (mobile)

Dr Chris Sugden:  01865 883388 or 0780 829 7043 (mobile)

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Primates Statement - AAC / Network Response
25th February 2005

“We are thankful for the work of the Primates of the Anglican Communion in addressing the complicated issues before them this week. This is a pivotal moment in Anglican history in which Biblical faithfulness has been reaffirmed.  At last a clear and unequivocal choice has been presented to the Episcopal Church USA and the Anglican Church of Canada.  Being asked voluntarily to withdraw, the two provinces have been effectively suspended from the Communion until at least July 2008 in order to consider their place within that body.  They must choose between repentance marked by compliance with the Windsor Report or continued theological innovations that separate them from the teaching and life of the Anglican Communion. We applaud the pastoral sensitivity with which the Primates have addressed the concerns of those who feel betrayed by their church leadership as well as those of homosexual orientation.”

“Out of twenty-two paragraphs of the Communiqué, 15 focus on the Windsor Report, clearly indicating that the theological crisis faced by the Communion was the primates’ central concern.  The Communiqué gives hopeful evidence, however, that having dealt with this issue, the Communion can turn to critical matters such as developing effective strategies to address HIV AIDS, TB, malaria, absolute poverty and hunger reduction.”

“We will continue to pray for the Communion in this solemn period of transition as the church sorts out the various implications and ramifications of the Primates’ 2005 Communiqué.” 

 


26 posted on 02/24/2005 5:15:53 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Professional Engineer

Father John sent it to us in email. I can forward it to ya if you want his comments.


27 posted on 02/24/2005 7:06:39 PM PST by msdrby (Freedom, by its nature, must be chosen and defended by its citizens.)
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To: Raycpa

Very good point.


28 posted on 02/24/2005 7:27:01 PM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: plushaye
The ACC leadership has now been lumped in the same boat with ECUSA, and this IS going to sting.

How true, and that is very funny.:)

29 posted on 02/24/2005 7:37:36 PM PST by xJones
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To: Raycpa

Isn't the property owned by the Church? Why don't they just close the doors on the Churches until better leadership can be found. The Bihops that are in revolt should be dismissed.


30 posted on 02/24/2005 7:43:58 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: tjwmason

Okay, I have read the letter by David Virtue, and the report. What remains unclear to me is what will happen to those diocese and parishes of the ECUSA who wish to remain Anglican, and distance themselves from said ECUSA.

I have not seen anything definitive on the issue, except for the forming of the Network of Anglican Communion Dioceses and Parishes. I guess what I am wondering is how this effects those of ECUSA who remain faithful to biblical principle.


31 posted on 02/24/2005 9:00:09 PM PST by msdrby (Freedom, by its nature, must be chosen and defended by its citizens.)
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To: msdrby

egads, redundancy. Time for bed!


32 posted on 02/24/2005 9:01:42 PM PST by msdrby (Freedom, by its nature, must be chosen and defended by its citizens.)
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To: Raycpa
a moratorium on public Rites of Blessing for same-sex unions and on the consecration of any bishop living in a sexual relationship outside Christian marriage

Some thoughts on this (I'm a Catholic, but our liberals want to take us in the same direction as ECUSA, so this is very relevant!):

Do you think that in addition to not consecrating Bishops who are living in sin, they would also address priests, and perhaps even laity, in that situation?

And I'm pleased with the phrase "a sexual relationship outside Christian marriage." I've been saying for a long time that homosexuality is the tail of the camel, so to speak. The head and body were the almost universal acceptance of heterosexual unchastity, both in general society and in the church.

33 posted on 02/25/2005 5:21:32 AM PST by Tax-chick (Donate to FRIENDS OF SCOUTING and ruin a liberal's day!)
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To: newheart

David Virtue speaks as a wild eyed thumper of evil. He has good insider tidbits, but he WANTS change so much that he wears his rose colored glasses to his keyboard.


34 posted on 02/25/2005 5:46:14 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: McGavin999
Isn't the property owned by the Church? The organization of the Anglican church is complex. The US Church is national and is a voluntary member of the Anglican Church. An analogy would be the UN. The US church in turn is comprised of Dioceses which could be considered states. Apparently the law is that the property in an individual church is property of the national church.
35 posted on 02/25/2005 6:19:10 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Tax-chick
Do you think that in addition to not consecrating Bishops who are living in sin, they would also address priests, and perhaps even laity, in that situation?

I am sure the conservative Primates would agree but the issue is both political and theological.

36 posted on 02/25/2005 7:14:16 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: q_an_a

I agree. He may even have a rose colored keyboard. One has to take Virtue's commentary with a grain of salt. But he remains the best source for tracking all the developments in the unfolding saga of the Epicopal church.


37 posted on 02/25/2005 7:30:01 AM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: Raycpa

I don't know if the local property belongs to the national church, but I do know that in most instances (but not all) local parish property is held in trust for the diocese.

But even that doesn't settle the issue. The courts will have to sort this out unless the ECUSA develops an unlikely streak of magnanimity. </holding my breath>


38 posted on 02/25/2005 7:32:54 AM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: newheart
I know this is couched in Anglican diplospeak, but what if the ECUSA does not "voluntarily withdraw." This is like it depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
39 posted on 02/25/2005 3:41:45 PM PST by Truth29
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