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To: Arguss

"...what exactly are the loopholes that would permit homosexuals to come pouring into the Church legally...?"

I do not pretend to know about what is being done "legally." But like I started to explain in the comment following the truncated article which I typed in here, in this diocese, anyway (and since Mahony was buddies with Cardinal Bernardin of Chicago who died in the middle of a sex scandal, it's probably all over the country, if not the world), I know from personal experience that at St. John Seminary in Oxnard, CA, they have been expelling good seminarians who are caught being too traditional for many years. I have personally met some and have heard their story. What are the offenses that warrant expulsion? Watch:

1. A seminarian caught learning Latin on his own (all Latin studies were expunged long ago) was put on the list.

2. Any seminarian caught studying the Traditional Latin Mass propers, rubrics or trappings was put on the list.

3. Any seminarian found praying the Rosary or encouraging others to pray the Rosary was put on the list.

What was the "list" for? A record of the seminarians was kept, and those on the "list" were tailed most maliciously. Anything they did that could be used as grounds for dismissal was prosecuted to the hilt. Of course, a homosexually inclined seminarian could do the same things and nothing would come of it. Remember this is AFTER the prohibition for letting them in in the first place. They should not have even been there to begin with, but now they were being given preferential treatment!

The offenses used were things like habitual tardiness, disrespect for authority, missing appointments, wearing inappropriate clothing, being in prohibited areas or talking out of turn. That way, the fact of institutionalized discrimination AGAINST good and faithful candidates to the priesthood WOULD NEVER GET RECORDED.

I doubt you will likely find much written on this, but you can listen to the GOOD MEN who were oppressed by this corrupt institution.


26 posted on 02/22/2005 11:31:23 AM PST by donbosco74 ("Men and devils make war on me in this great city." (Paris) --St. Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort)
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To: donbosco74
"...what exactly are the loopholes that would permit homosexuals to come pouring into the Church legally...?"

I was speaking specifically about the article, I assume you read in whole as I did. After all you posted it.

Perhaps I didn't make my question clear. What exactly about the new document that is due out this fall has the authors panties in a bunch. He apparently thinks it is an open invitation for homosexuals to enter seminaries and be ordained. He thinks this so forcefully that he wants us to write letters to the Pope and all the hierarchy.

The only thing is, I don't understand where exactly the fire is in the new document. It actually states that homosexuals are not to be admitted or ordained.

I thought since you typed some of it, you probably read it also. I did, and when I got to the end I wasn't sure what his problem was (specifically with the doc)

I'm pretty well versed in what you had to say, as are most of us here, and I know more has to be done, not less, to assure orthodox Priests for the future.

37 posted on 02/22/2005 4:09:42 PM PST by Arguss (Take the narrow road)
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