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Unclothed Christ draws protest
Stuff ^ | February 16, 2005 | Louise Bleakly

Posted on 02/17/2005 7:41:15 PM PST by NYer

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To: NYer

”The artist who was commisioned is Llew Summers..."

...a no-talent homo.

Those who allowed this sacrilege should be severely disciplined.


21 posted on 02/17/2005 10:41:22 PM PST by dsc
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To: Jaded
I'm not a fan of modern art but there is a time and a place for it.

Yes, the toilet.

Modern "art" is simply the longest running hoax in history.

22 posted on 02/18/2005 5:37:30 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: dayton law dude
I know this doesn't necessarily mean that Jesus was left with NO clothes, but it gives credence to the possibility that it is so.

That may or may not be so. But there is an issue of modesty here. Notice that Christ's genitals are not visible in the image on the Shroud of Turin. If someone stripped me and killed me, I wouldn't want a sculpture of my naked body preserved for posterity.

I can understand leaving the statue of David naked since it doesn't represent any known person in particular, but not an image of our Savior.

23 posted on 02/18/2005 5:42:28 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I don't blame the artiste. He is probably just an ignorant elitist homosexual snob. I blame every single person who approved of hiring an ignorant elitist homosexual snob in the first place, as well as every single parishioner who approves of the asinine result of the ignorant elitist homosexual snob's demented vision, and also every member of the Catholic hierarchy who hesitates for a single second to demand the immediate destruction of asinine result of the ignorant elitist homosexual snob's demented vision.

Nail on the head.

24 posted on 02/18/2005 5:46:06 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Calpernia
My friend and business partner is an artist


I'll Say!

What an awesome painting! Does he have more?

25 posted on 02/18/2005 5:50:09 AM PST by dagoofyfoot
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To: dagoofyfoot
Oh yes.

This is one of my favorites.


26 posted on 02/18/2005 5:52:19 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
::Now I'm showing him off, sorry::


27 posted on 02/18/2005 5:53:32 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

28 posted on 02/18/2005 5:57:26 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: NYer
These sculptures, as a work of art, lack a great deal. The forms and the craftsmanship are substandard. I would expect better from a second rate university MFA grad student than what I saw here.

As art these are crude and lack expression of the subject, Jesus. He often looks like a caveman, and his poses look stilted and unnatural. It irritated me to see some decent stations that could have been done well, like Veronica's Veil (Station 6), where the hands were pretty good; but they were masculine hands, and they framed a comical impression of Jesus. It appears Veronica wiped the face of Al Jolson, rather than Jesus.

Especially laughable to me was station two where a flying cross in bad perspective was going to crush caveman Jesus. The naked Jesus has a particularly baffling pose, he looked like he was doing an impression of a F-111 swing wing jet, ready to fly around cavalry before the crucifixion.

I accused the Artist of the equivalent of heresy in the art world. He was "phoning it in". I can make no other conclusion except lack of talent, lack of skill, and lack of motivation to do a decent job. I know artists in Florida who do better concrete bas relief on the side of condos or make lawn jockeys better than this person has done.

As liturgical elements they lack a cross, every station must have a cross with it, looks like only station 8 has one. They all need one. It doesn't matter how good (or bad) the art is, without that Cross it isn't the Via Crucis.

I would have to say, I would pull out a copy of the stations, in a different part of the Church, and say them quietly.
29 posted on 02/18/2005 5:59:26 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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30 posted on 02/18/2005 6:00:28 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Definitely an extremely talented individual!


31 posted on 02/18/2005 6:02:30 AM PST by dagoofyfoot
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To: dagoofyfoot

Thanks :)

I think it offsets the topic of this thread nicely ;)


32 posted on 02/18/2005 6:17:24 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: dayton law dude

Honestly. Just because our Lord Jesus hung naked on the cross doesn't mean it has to be depicted. I wonder if a fully exposed bare-breasted Mary suckling the baby Jesus isn't next in the offering. I wonder if that will be consider a "great work of art".

Fortunately us Protestants show a empty cross.


33 posted on 02/18/2005 6:41:14 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: Aquinasfan; annalex; NYer; eastsider
I can understand leaving the statue of David naked since it doesn't represent any known person in particular, but not an image of our Savior.

But it is! Our Lord is the son of David, is he not? And the Bible suggests (and tradition teaches) that David's batle with Goliath was a prophetic prefiguring of our Lord's crucified triumph over death, the enemy of the New Israel, and was fought in the nude. It was not some random accident that scripture relates the decision of David (the YOUNGER brother!) to strip off Saul's armor.

Annalex: thanks for the plug!

34 posted on 02/18/2005 6:49:08 AM PST by Romulus (Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?)
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To: Aquinasfan

My 7th grade CCE class could do better than this. IMO, it's weird, mocking and (nudity aside) vulgar trying to pass itself off as 'modern art'.


35 posted on 02/18/2005 6:53:17 AM PST by Jaded (My sheeple, my sheeple....)
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To: NYer; Romulus
If nothing else, I hope this sets to rest the question of the maleness of the priesthood ...

On a more serious note, I really like the cross on the bias, looking like a Greek chi. Nice touch.

36 posted on 02/18/2005 7:22:18 AM PST by eastsider
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To: HarleyD
I wonder if a fully exposed bare-breasted Mary suckling the baby Jesus isn't next in the offering. I wonder if that will be consider a "great work of art".

Actually, There is an 14th Century painting of just such an image. There is a 6th Century example of an Icon of the Maria Lactans.

There are also nude, or nearly nude crucifixion depictions.

The objections are soley the nudity, the objection is the prurient interest in that depiction. To mask the crude workmanship, and generally bad art, the artist used a picture of a "hootie" to deflect attention.

During inspections, a enterprising soldier would leave something amiss for the Sargent to find, so he would leave, rather than search until he found something more picayune. This person took very bad bas relief sculpture, and added something to make people talk. He is a poor artist, but a good publicity person. All too often, successful bad artists are excellent publicity "whores".
37 posted on 02/18/2005 7:29:34 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Romulus
But it is!

True, but he didn't model for it, which is the point I didn't make very well.

It also doesn't seem to me to be appropriate for a church. OTOH, the pope removed the fig leaves from the Last Judgement, which I can't really argue with. Still, I'll go with the Shroud on this one. Keep it covered.

38 posted on 02/18/2005 7:51:52 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: eastsider

What ... no contribution to the 'art gallery'?


39 posted on 02/18/2005 7:57:18 AM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: annalex
The absolutely horrible quality of most church art in the past 400 years or so

You have one too many zeros there ... and there are exceptions. Other than that, I agree. Most of what is billed as 'modern' art, whether sacred or profane, is dreck.

40 posted on 02/18/2005 8:00:05 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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