[traviskicks]

Very cool about the needle! No, I didn't know that.

I think I now fully understand your position. Our positions are somewhat close to each other, but there is still a bit of space between us. I guess that part is just something we will have to agree to disagree about.

And I agree speculation about judgement is relatively useless. After all, 'judge not, lest ye be judged.'

[Safrguns]

And I agree speculation about judgement is relatively useless.

Ummm... I could have said this, but I don't remember where.
In the wrong context, this statement could be incorrect.

It's important to note that there is a BIG difference between condemnation vs salvation, and judgement. There are different forms of judgment, and believe me... you don't want to be one who is judged according to his works... So please don't waste any time figuring out who Jesus really is. There's not much time left.