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1 posted on
01/07/2005 7:47:32 PM PST by
DouglasKC
To: DouglasKC
Well I would venture a guess and say that you are not a Dispensationalist.
2 posted on
01/07/2005 8:32:52 PM PST by
loboinok
(GUN CONTROL IS HITTING WHAT YOU AIM AT.)
To: DouglasKC
We have seen earlier that Jesus was actually God in the Old Testament. God doesn't change His ways. He is eternal. It would not inspire much faith to know that He required one thing in the Old Testament but then changed His mind and came up with a wholly difsferent set of requirements in the New. Jesus Christ is consistent, "the same yesterday, today, and forever" (Hebrews 13:8).Is this a denial of the trinity? I would say when the OT speaks of God it is usually the triune God. But there are times that the division of the trinity is displayed .No man had seen the Father, but men had seen Christ . The pillar of fire ( the Holy Spirit leading) .
Does the author deny the trinity?
5 posted on
01/07/2005 9:57:54 PM PST by
RnMomof7
To: DouglasKC
This article is right on the money!!
The Church has been misleading us for far too long regarding the truth of scripture. We should no longer tolerate the lies taught as truth from the pulpit! I am in the process of learning the Torah and applying it to my life. I feel as if a HUGE burden has been lifted off my shoulders! FINALLY the answers to my questions make sense!
Keeping Torah is indeed a blessing. My advice to all christians is to read the bible and DO WHAT IT SAYS!
SHABBAT SHALOM!
8 posted on
01/08/2005 6:26:00 AM PST by
whipitgood
(Public schools have replaced a biblical moral code with pragmatism. Civilization, beware!)
To: DouglasKC
Try Matthew 5:38-39. Jesus directly
reinterprets what the OT says. Also Heb 8:7-13 leave no doubt that the Old Covenant was
made imperfect (corrupt) and had to be replaced by the New. The OT itself is the source of that understanding.
There was nothing wrong with the Old Covenant, except that the Hebrews interpreted it in an imperfect way. Through Judaism, the God of Abraham would have remained known only to the Jews.
9 posted on
01/08/2005 7:28:16 AM PST by
kosta50
(Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
To: DouglasKC
It is apparent that the author is stating that one must follow the 10 Commandments in order to achieve righteousness. Does the author not know there are actually 613 Laws and that the 10 Commandments are not the Law, they are actually "Sayings" for which the 613 Laws are categorized?
13 posted on
01/08/2005 9:50:39 AM PST by
snerkel
("Don't condone what God condemns")
To: DouglasKC
Good article. I tend to think the preoccupation with which physical day is the Sabbath is contradictory to the rest of the article, however, I also find the rest of the article to be well founded.
26 posted on
01/08/2005 10:40:45 PM PST by
Cvengr
(<;^))
To: DouglasKC
Excellent article. Thank you for posting it. I will certainly guard it.
Since it appears to me that you are one of the very few Bible followers that I know, I have a couple of questions relating to the feasts that you may know something about or possibly may direct me to the right source.
This is not, in my opinion, a salvation issue, but since your article mentions the feast days, it reminded me of something Ive been trying to figure out for a long time. We know Yhshua died on 14 Nisan. The next day (beginning at sundown) was the feast of Unleavened Bread, and the following day (16th) was the Feast of First Fruits. My question is how did he specifically fulfill this? Let me clarify a bit more. Yhshua said in Matthew hede be buried 3 days and 3 nights. Some say that a day is not a 24 hr. period, but could represent a part of that 24 hours, others say a day refers only to hours of daylight, and on and on. Others say that the sabbath referred to in reference to his death and resurrection was the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Some claim that the words first day of the week is not really what the Greek or the original Latin Vulgate says. I looked those verses up in those languages (not that I know them), but I can see the similarities of what appears as the word sabbath in both languages instead of first day as translated in English. What do you make out of all this?
May YHWH Bless you in you search for TRUTH
To: DouglasKC
I think we will begin going to Mass on Saturday. Just in case.
;^)
5.56mm
137 posted on
01/15/2005 12:49:51 PM PST by
M Kehoe
To: DouglasKC
168 posted on
01/15/2005 3:15:47 PM PST by
Ciexyz
(I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
To: DouglasKC
Anyone who claims to be a Christian but believes he must keep the laws listed in the first five books of the Bible has been led astray.
189 posted on
01/15/2005 11:42:27 PM PST by
k2blader
(It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
To: DouglasKC
219 posted on
01/17/2005 9:40:06 AM PST by
Ciexyz
(I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
To: DouglasKC
A fascinating and excellent post. You wouldn't happen to be Messianic, would you?
I'll hop back in and comment later if I can.
220 posted on
01/17/2005 10:26:45 AM PST by
Buggman
(Your failure to be informed does not make me a kook.)
To: DouglasKC
For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven
You're missing the point, Faith is greater than thier works based approach. How can you miss such an obvious point. Jesus also said "Be perfect like your heavenly Father is" while actually speaking to sinners at the time? When covered by the blood of Jesus I am perfect and my righteousness is greater than that of the pharisees.
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