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Posted on 01/05/2005 10:16:58 AM PST by Mercat
Hail Mary full of Grace, etc. one time through
Hail Mary full of grapes...
Blessed are thou among the fruit of the loom...
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It's hard to keep from going flat when chanting. You almost have to consciously force the pitch upwards (or have an inconspicuous tone generator hidden about your person.)
I know what you mean ... the feeling about vain repetitions. It's a meditation though and as I listen, my mind does rest on other things and the direction is positive. I'm not too concerned with whether the prayers affect the Mother of God but I know that they comfort me and lead me to serenity.
Vain: in an irreverent or blasphemous manner (Merriam-Webster).
There is nothing irreverent or blapshemous about saying the Lord's Prayer, the Angelic Salutation, or a prayer giving glory to the Holy and Undivided Trinity.
That's because you don't realize it's really a meditation on the life of Jesus from his conception to his death...the verbal part is just the tip of the iceberg.
It's no more a vain repetion than singing the same songs in church service are.
Here's a typical way to say the Rosary that I use with kids:
(just one decade)
The Annunciation: the angel Gabriel says to Mary
that she is going to be the mother of Jesus
Our Father
God sent the angel Gabriel to a town in Galilee named Nazareth (Luke 1,26)
Hail Mary
He had a message for a young woman promised in marriage to a man named Joseph, who was a descendant of King David. Her name was Mary. (Luke1,27)
Hail Mary
The angel came to her and said, "Peace be with you! The Lord is with you and has greatly blessed you!" (Luke 1,28)
Hail Mary
Mary was deeply troubled by the angel's message, and she wondered what his words meant. (Luke 1,29)
Hail Mary
The angel said to her, "Don't be afraid, Mary; God has been gracious to you. You will become pregnant and give birth to a son, and you will name him Jesus." (Luke 1,30-31)
Hail Mary
Mary said to the angel, "I am a virgin. How, then, can this be?" (Luke 1,34)
Hail Mary
The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come on you, and God's power will rest upon you. For this reason the holy child will be called the Son of God.'" (Luke 1,35)
Hail Mary
"Remember your relative Elizabeth. It is said that she cannot have children, but she herself is now six months pregnant, even though she is very old." (Luke1,36)
Hail Mary
"For there is nothing that God cannot do." (Luke 1,37)
Hail Mary
"I am the Lord's servant," said Mary; "may it happen to me as you have said." And the angel left her. (Luke 1,36)
Hail Mary
Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever. Amen.
And so on. We wrap ourselves into the life of our Lord through verbal prayers, while holding close to Jesus.
What is the purpose of such your reply? Are you mocking Catholic traditions?
I don't know why either. There's nothing 'vain' about the Rosary.
What is the purpose of your reply? Are you mocking Catholic traditions?
If you learned to say the Rosary in Bavaria (the first place I encountered it, many years ago), you actually add, verbally, the meditation on the mysteries in the middle of the Hail Mary.
E.g. - "Hail, Mary, full of grace! The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus - whom the angel Gabriel announced to thee, o Virgin - Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen." and so on.
Besides, how many little children in their mamas' laps (and courting lovers) have murmured over and over, "I love you. I love you." Is that vain repetition?
LOL!
You can say that again
Matthew 6:7
But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
You are correct, praying the rosary is based on tradition not God's word.
Much like the rest of Catholicism is.
When it initially showed up in News/Activism, it sure looked like an open invitation for all to weigh in on it.
-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)
This is too funny. I know someone who left FR because FR allowed Catholics to post and be open about it.
The thing that strikes me, is all the squawk about "repetitive prayers" being unbiblical. Every Wednesday I go to Highpoint, which is a Southern Baptist sponsored mini-general-study. And no matter who is teaching be it the Pastor who runs the program or his assistant the opening prayer is ALWAYS the same.
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