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To: P-Marlowe; xzins
"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." I Tim 2:11-14

This is addressed in the article. The article's author attempts to sum up the legitimacy of his position with the following: "Yet, the complexity and difficulty of the passage is mirrored in the disagreement it evokes among even conservative scholars." The author eventually finds himself with no final basis save for four possible interpretations 'here' and a few more options 'over here.' It seems we can apparently assume the author considers himself a "liberal."

With Titus 1:5-16 describing why only the most blameless men (and only men) must be elders, I do not understand why we cannot hold all men to the status of the spiritual leaders of God's own house.

Does this mean that women cannot impart scriptural wisdom and knowledge upon men from time to time? No. But to be put into a semipermanent position of such authority is not specifically allowed in Scripture.
16 posted on 12/27/2004 10:23:55 PM PST by ScottM1968
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To: ScottM1968; P-Marlowe

What you call her summary of the verse is actually an introduction to it. You would do well to read more in the section "women in the early church."

This is a Nazarene Church theological site. I doubt that the lady is a liberal. She is relying extensively on scripture, and she appears to take it very seriously.

But, then again, I'm Methodist so I've run across REAL theological liberals just about weekly for years....most folks in evangelicalism see an open-minded conservative and only think they've just seen a liberal.


18 posted on 12/27/2004 10:29:10 PM PST by xzins (The Party Spirit -- why I don't take the other side seriously!)
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