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To: Gamecock

***As a nation, we have become very lazy doctinally, IMHO.***

Although that is critical, I wonder if it might not be something else.

I just recently learned that back during the great missionary movement of the 1800's, the average lifespan of an American missionary going to central Africa was something like 16 months. Yet Christians went by the hundreds!!!!

Can you imagine us doing that today?

The following verse has really made me wonder if the real reason the Church in America is being "overcome" by the devil and not "overcoming" him is because we love our lives and want to keep them.

Revelation 12:11

"And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death. "


7 posted on 12/27/2004 9:22:41 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
I think we are describing the same sorry state, but from different levels.

First, understand that I agree with what you are saying. My point about weak doctrine relates to the fact that American Protestants* are living in what Francis Schaeffer described as an "Evangelical Ghetto." That meaning we are poor in out rightful understanding of our place in creation and God's place in our worship. We are more interested in elevating ourselves above where we truly are, and that lowers our estimation of who God is.....

Check out my Valley of Vison threads. I think the Puritans understood what I am still struggling to come to grips with myself.

As a result, we don't carry out what he expects of us, and we slide into complacency.

(*I will not presume to go into what ails our RC/EO friends. I see them struggling with their own issues here on FR)

8 posted on 12/27/2004 10:10:40 AM PST by Gamecock
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