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To: Aquinasfan; All
Have you ever asked a Methodist to pray for you?

Actually, No.

I have never asked anyone to pray for me, as I have never asked anyone for a gift. (except as a child from Santa)

While I appreciate the furtherance of my understanding of the Saint and the act of veneration, my religious training and my understanding of the afterlife and God preclude me from this concept.

I would hope that all Catholics, Anglicans and Lutherans along with others who speak to or with Saints and inanimate objects would also accept that I do not and cannot. And that I view it as a unnecessary complication at the very least.

I do not, and should not even say what images it brings to my minds eye when I think about it.

But, at least I have improved my sense of understanding regarding this issue. I would hope the feeling is mutual.

99 posted on 12/13/2004 8:40:15 AM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Cold Heat
We once visited with some close friends as they dedicated their new home. This started with the traditional burnt offerings to the gods, followed by various participatory "hearth and home" ceremonies, and so forth.

My wife is from a much more "open" background (they have Buddhists in the family), and mine is good old fashioned, cut and dried, Christian Church ~ so she joined in with our friends (to a degree), and I stood at the back of the room with the Moslems!

"In that day they will not do the burnt offering...." ~~ and that's after the Messiah comes.

I've often wondered if a Jew had been present if he'd participated in the burnt offering, or join the hard-core Christian "fundies" and the Moslems at the back of the room. Any guesses?

(NOTE: It's the same burnt offering made for the same purposes as in the good old days ~ here a banana became the substitute sacrifice ~ a really good banana too, selected from a select position on a large bunch ~ a regular ol' "first fruits" type of fruit).

100 posted on 12/13/2004 9:51:13 AM PST by muawiyah
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