Mathematics bombshell: God 'confirmed in Bible'

For a lot of people, the Bible and mathematics are dry subjects, but not for Edwin Sherman – he believes he's found how the two fit together.

Sherman, founder of the Isaac Newton Bible Code Research Society and a professional mathematician, is convinced that the Hebrew Bible contains coded messages that are evidence of God's authorship of the Bible. His book, "Bible Code Bombshell: Compelling Scientific Evidence that God Authored the Bible," describes numerous examples of encoded phrases and sentences that are both lengthy and relevant to the text where they were found.

What no one realizes, is that God is lecturing the Rebel Angels.He's giving them an a$$ chewing, telling them that every thing else behaves as it is supposed to, why can't ya'll.

Why leave out the important parts

1 Enoch Chapter 3 Observe and see how (in the winter) all the trees seem as though they had withered and shed all their leaves, except fourteen trees, which do not lose their foliage but retain the old foliage from two to three years till the new comes

1 Enoch Chapter 4 And again, observe ye the days of summer how the sun is above the earth over against it. And you seek shade and shelter by reason of the heat of the sun, and the earth also burns with growing heat, and so you cannot tread on the earth, or on a rock by reason of its heat. ,

1 Enoch Chapter 5 1 Observe ye how the trees cover themselves with green leaves and bear fruit: wherefore give ye heed and know with regard to all His works, and recognize how He that liveth for ever hath made them so. 2 And all His works go on thus from year to year for ever, and all the tasks which they accomplish for Him, and their tasks change not, but according as God hath ordained so is it done. 3 And behold how the sea and the rivers in like manner accomplish and change not their tasks from His commandments'. 4 But ye -ye have not been steadfast, nor done the commandments of the Lord, But ye have turned away and spoken proud and hard words with your impure mouths against His greatness. Oh, ye hard-hearted, ye shall find no peace. 5 Therefore shall ye execrate your days, And the years of your life shall perish, And the years of your destruction shall be multiplied in eternal execration, And ye shall find no mercy. 6a In those days ye shall make your names an eternal execration unto all the righteous, b And by you shall all who curse, curse, And all the sinners and godless shall imprecate by you, c And for you the godless there shall be a curse. 6d And all the . . . shall rejoice, e And there shall be forgiveness of sins, f And every mercy and peace and forbearance: g There shall be salvation unto them, a goodly light. i And for all of you sinners there shall be no salvation, j But on you all shall abide a curse. 7a But for the elect there shall be light and joy and peace, b And they shall inherit the earth. 8 And then there shall be bestowed upon the elect wisdom, And they shall all live and never again sin, Either through ungodliness or through pride: But they who are wise shall be humble. 9 And they shall not again transgress, Nor shall they sin all the days of their life, Nor shall they die of (the divine) anger or wrath, But they shall complete the number of the days of their life. And their lives shall be increased in peace, And the years of their joy shall be multiplied, In eternal gladness and peace, All the days of their life.

1 Enoch Chapter 6 1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto 2 them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men 3 and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not 4 indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations 5 not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves 6 by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn 7 and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, 8 Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqlel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens

Semjaza is written Shemihazah in the Aramaic. Genesis 6:1-4 tells a more condensed version of this story of angelic rebellion for the purpose of taking wives and having children. J.T.Milik believes that the Enochian version is older, though this position is not widely held. Jared is the son of Enoch according to the Jahwistic tradition in Gen 4:18. According to what's known as the Priestly tradition, Enoch's son is Methuselah (Gen 5:21), as is seen in 1 Enoch ch 106. It should be realized in this passage that the angelic fall was a wilful choice of the angels who go down to Mount Hermon and make a pact to commit acts of self-defilement. If we note David Suter's analysis of the angelic fall, he makes a strong parallel between the angels that fall and certain priests who take wives from outside their "caste”

1 And after this judgement they shall terrify and make them to tremble because they have shown this to those who dwell on the earth.

2 And behold the names of those angels [and these are their names: the first of them is Samjaza, the second Artaqifa, and the third Armen, the fourth Kokabel, the fifth Turael, the sixth Rumjal, the seventh Danjal, the eighth Neqael, the ninth Baraqel, the tenth Azazel, the eleventh Armaros, the twelfth Batarjal, the thirteenth Busasejal, the fourteenth Hananel, the fifteenth Turel, and the sixteenth Simapesiel, the seventeenth Jetrel, the eighteenth Tumael, the nineteenth Turel,

3 the twentieth Rumael, the twenty-first Azazel. And these are the chiefs of their angels and their names, and their chief ones over hundreds and over fifties and over tens].

4 The name of the first Jeqon: that is, the one who led astray [all] the sons of God, and brought them 5 down to the earth, and led them astray through the daughters of men. And the second was named Asbeel: he imparted to the holy sons of God evil counsel, and led them astray so that they defiled 6 their bodies with the daughters of men.

And the third was named Gadreel: he it is who showed the children of men all the blows of death, and he led astray Eve, and showed [the weapons of death to the sons of men] the shield and the coat of mail, and the sword for battle, and all the weapons 7 of death to the children of men.

And from his hand they have proceeded against those who dwell 8 on the earth from that day and for evermore.

And the fourth was named Penemue: he taught the 9 children of men the bitter and the sweet, and he taught them all the secrets of their wisdom. And he instructed mankind in writing with ink and paper, and thereby many sinned from eternity to 10 eternity and until this day.

For men were not created for such a purpose, to give confirmation 11 to their good faith with pen and ink.

For men were created exactly like the angels, to the intent that they should continue pure and righteous, and death, which destroys everything, could not have taken hold of them, but through this their knowledge they are perishing, and through this power 12 it is consuming me.

And the fifth was named Kasdeja: this is he who showed the children of men all the wicked smitings of spirits and demons, and the smitings of the embryo in the womb, that it may pass away, and [the smitings of the soul] the bites of the serpent, and the smitings 13 which befall through the noontide heat, the son of the serpent named Taba'et.

And this is the task of Kasbeel, the chief of the oath which he showed to the holy ones when he dwelt high 4 above in glory, and its name is Biqa.

This (angel) requested Michael to show him the hidden name, that he might enunciate it in the oath, so that those might quake before that name and oath who revealed all that was in secret to the children of men. And this is the power of this oath, for it is powerful and strong, and he placed this oath Akae in the hand of Michael.

Thank you for your reply!

The issues raised by Ichneumon here were also raised on a thread which I posted: Freeper Research Project: Enoch and Astronomy.

At posts 122 and 129, I respond to Ichneumon’s objections. Basically, he/she is using an older translation of the book. The latest translation, the one I use, is Charlesworth’s Pseudepigrapha Volume 1 translation by E. Isaac. AFAIK, it is not yet available on the internet - and the difference is significant.

I suggest that anyone interested in the book of Enoch might wish to surf the above link for more information.

Ichneumon elsewhere questioned whether there is any evidence for the Noah flood. For the thread I would like to raise this article (by my calculation the flood was between 2348 BC and 2105 B.C.):

COMETS AND DISASTER IN THE BRONZE AGE - British Archeology, Journal of the Council for British Archeology December 1997

At some time around 2300 BC, give or take a century or two, a large number of the major civilisations of the world collapsed, simultaneously it seems. The Akkadian Empire in Mesopotamia, the Old Kingdom in Egypt, the Early Bronze Age civilisation in Israel, Anatolia and Greece, as well as the Indus Valley civilisation in India, the Hilmand civilisation in Afghanistan and the Hongshan Culture in China - the first urban civilisations in the world - all fell into ruin at more or less the same time. Why? …

Some decades ago, the hunt for clues passed largely into the hands of natural scientists. Concentrating on the earlier set of Bronze Age collapses, researchers began to find a range of evidence that suggested that natural causes rather than human actions, may have been initially responsible. There began to be talk of climate change, volcanic activity, and earthquakes - and some of this material has now found its way into standard historical accounts of the period.

Agreement, however, there has never been. Some researchers favoured one type of natural cause, others favoured another, and the problem remained that no single explanation appeared to account for all the evidence….

The hunt for natural causes for these human disasters began when the Frenchman Claude Schaeffer, one of the leading archaeologists of his time, published his book ‘Stratigraphie Comparee et Chronologie L’Asie Occidentale’ in 1948. Schaeffer analysed and compared the destruction layers of more than 40 archaeological sites in the Near and Middle East, from Troy to Tepe Hissar on the Caspian Sea and from the Levant to Mesopotamia. He was the first scholar to detect that all had been totally destroyed several times in the Early, Middle and Late Bronze Age, apparently simultaneously.

Since the damage was far too excessive and did not show signs of military or human involvement, he argued that repeated earthquakes might have been responsible for these events. At the time he published, Schaeffer was not taken seriously by the world of archaeology. Since then, however, natural scientists have found widespread and unambiguous evidence for abrupt climate change, sudden sea level changes, catastrophic inundations, widespread seismic activity and evidence for massive volcanic activity at several periods since the last Ice Age, but particularly at around 2200BC, give or take 200 years.

Areas such as the Sahara, or around the Dead Sea, were once farmed but became deserts. Tree rings show disastrous growth conditions at c 2350BC, while sediment cores from lakes and rivers in Europe and Africa show a catastrophic drop in water levels at this time. In Mesopotamia, vast areas of land appear to have been devastated, inundated, or totally burned...

Yet what was the cause of these earthquakes, eruptions, tidal waves, fire-blasts and climate changes? By the late 1970s, British astronomers Victor Clube and Bill Napier of Oxford University had begun to investigate cometary impact as the ultimate cause. Then in 1980, the Nobel prizewinning physicist Luis Alvarez and his colleagues published their famous paper in ‘Science’ that argued that a cosmic impact had led to the extinction of the dinosaurs.. He showed that large amounts of the element iridium present in geological layers dating from about 65 million BC had a cosmic origin.

Alvarez’s paper had immense influence and stimulated further research by such British astronomers as Clube and Napier, Prof Mark Bailey of the Armagh Observatory, Duncan Steel of Spaceguard Australia, and Britain’s best known astronomer Sir Fred Hoyle. All now support the theory of cometary impact and loosely form what is now known as the British School of Coherent Catastrophism.

These scholars envisage trains of cometary debris which repeatedly encounter the Earth. We know that tiny particles of cosmic material penetrate the atmosphere every day, but their impact is insignificant.

Occasionally, however, cosmic debris measuring between one and several hundred metres in diametre strike the Earth and these can have catastrophic effects on our ecological system, through multimegaton explosions of fireballs which destroy natural and cultural features on the surface of the Earth by means of tidal-wave floods (if the debris lands in the sea), fire blasts and seismic damage…

The extent to which past cometary impacts were responsible for civilisation collapse, cultural change, even the development of religion, must remain a hypothesis. But in view of the astronomical, geological and archaeological evidence, this ‘giant comet’ hypothesis should no longer be dismissed by archaeologists out of hand.

It should also be noted that the Hebrew word for “breath of life” in Genesis 7 is the same as Genesis 2, i.e. neshama - the breath of life given by God by which Adam became a “living soul”. All the normal animal life in Genesis 1 had a different kind of soul, the nephesh.

I could write a book (and its value would certainly be subject to debate, I’m sure :) about my opinion on this, but will try to sum it up in ten minutes or so … :)

Several years ago, I started reading a book on the same subject (the fact that the Lord is the sole author of all that is contained between the covers of the Bible, and that the ‘proof’ of that fact lies in encoded messages that He has inserted, especially in the books of the Old Testament).

Despite a determination to approach the book with an open mind, and to read it to the end, I got about a third of the way through and couldn’t bear it anymore. To show you how offensive the theories offered were, I can’t even remember the book’s, or the author’s, name -- no doubt having forgotten them because I figure there is more valuable information vying for permanent space in my (ever dwindling) gray matter. :)

I have a familiarity with, and a basic understanding of, both the Old and New Testaments, but I am certainly not a Biblical scholar, so wouldn’t dream of debating this subject with someone who is. All of what follows simply represents my own personal point of view, based on what I do know about scripture, my own personal relationship with God, which has evolved day-by-day through observation of the countless ways His hand has touched my life, and through daily prayer. (Since most of us have our own unique relationship with Him, there are an infinite number of opinions on sensitive subjects such as this, none of which can be fairly dismissed by anyone else) ...

The use of mathematical models/analyses/probability/statistics, etc. to decipher, explain, or predict natural phenomena is responsible for much of the scientific advancement of mankind. But I do not believe it is necessary, or reliable, in examining or understanding scripture.

I believe that the Lord makes Himself, and His will, known through scriptural revelations that are learned through study of His literal written word, the invisible (yet unmistakable) touch of His guiding hand in our lives, and responses to prayer that I like to describe as ‘spiritual whispers’. Faith, as defined in Hebrews 11:1 (the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen), is the completely natural result of the confluence of those three things.

That the inspired word of God as revealed in scripture would amount to nothing but a series of contrived, encoded proofs of His existence that require some sort of scientific methodology to decipher mocks the very definition of faith, and reduces God to a game-player who seeks to offer salvation and peace not through a personal relationship with Him, but simply through a superior ability to problem solve. He would require His faithful to be members of a scientific intellectual elite. Hardly.

As far as predictions of the Messiah’s coming needing to be scientifically decoded, there is sufficient prophesy in Isaiah and Psalms to foretell the birth, and life, of Christ (especially in Isaiah 7 and 53, and Psalm 22 … written between 700 and 1000 years before His birth) without having to resort to scientific decoding.

A book that I believe answers age-old questions about Him and His relationship with us far better than the one discussed here is ‘The Privileged Planet: How our Place in the Cosmos is Designed for Discovery’. I read this book in one sitting (something I rarely do), and have since read it a second time, too. It is written by two brilliant men – one a theologian; and the other a physicist/astronomer -- who successfully combine expertise in both theology and science to explain just how remarkable and significant our planet is, in (what I see as) a successful attempt to seriously question, if not disprove, the Copernican Principle.

They theorize (and, to my mind, succeed as far as is possible in proving) that the earth is not simply a relatively insignificant planet in a relatively insignificant solar system in an infinite universe. They provide incredible scientific evidence that we are perfectly suited not only to support life, but also to accomplish, in a way completely unique to earth, the observation/examination/exploration of the universe and its infinite mysteries. Their handling of theology is spiritually breath-taking, and their carefully documented incorporation of dozens of scientific disciplines (from the history of tectonic plates to modern laws of physics) is scrupulously combined with the theological perspective into an incredibly compelling thesis. But they are cautious, not insistent, in their presentation … which makes their arguments even more compelling.

If you have a chance to pick up this book, I guarantee you won’t be disappointed.

End of subjective diatribe … :)

If we’re not in contact before then, Merry Christmas to you and yours, Steve.

~ joanie

At posts 122 and 129, I respond to Ichneumon’s objections.

To clarify a point that might be misconstrued, you responded to the disagreements we had over certain issues, but not to the specific portions I listed in this thread.

And your general comments about Enoch being a parable or metaphorical do not undercut the portions I quoted in this thread. If anything, your comments only reinforce the point I was making about Enoch earlier in this thread. That point is that if Enoch is taken literally, it is in error. Or if taken metaphorically (or as a parable), any particular passage can't automatically be taken as gospel (no pun intended), since figurative passages are much more open to interpretive error by the reader.

Ichneumon elsewhere questioned whether there is any evidence for the Noah flood.

*AS* a global, world-covering flood. I stand by my statements that the evidence simply does not support such a scenario.

For the thread I would like to raise this article (by my calculation the flood was between 2348 BC and 2105 B.C.):

Interesting, but the occurrence of widespread, regional disasters has been accepted for at least a century, if not longer. This latest work still doesn't help support the notion of a global flood which covered all of Earth's landmasses for any period of time, as such an event would have markedly different (and impossible-to-miss) effects on Earth's geology and species than even a massive event like the Chicxulub impact, far larger than the ones postulated in the article you have quoted here.

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