Posted on 12/12/2004 3:07:51 AM PST by The Loan Arranger
For a lot of people, the Bible and mathematics are dry subjects, but not for Edwin Sherman – he believes he's found how the two fit together.
Sherman, founder of the Isaac Newton Bible Code Research Society and a professional mathematician, is convinced that the Hebrew Bible contains coded messages that are evidence of God's authorship of the Bible. His book, "Bible Code Bombshell: Compelling Scientific Evidence that God Authored the Bible," describes numerous examples of encoded phrases and sentences that are both lengthy and relevant to the text where they were found.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Actually,
THE CHINESE SCRIPT
has LOTS of very Biblical facts embedded in them. I hope to post an excellent presentation of such--maybe this holiday season.
Agreed it is not occult. Why do you think these Rabbis spend all of their life studying the Torah? There is so much to learn from it, you just have to read the words between the words. It's certainly no easy task and computers have made it easier to do what they have been doing for centuries.
Those who read translations will miss nearly all of it. But a good contemporary comparison might be to compare it to Joyce's Finnegans Wake - which is nearly entirely composed of "english language" words made up from words from 17 different Latin languages to offer many multiples of readings at once.
A couple of such are:
The character for a BIG BOAT has the characters within it of 8, people and boat. So, in essence, the combination of characters for 8, people and boat = BIG BOAT--the ARK, clearly.
And,
the character for RIGHTEOUS
has in it LAMB
over 1 person
=
RIGHTEOUS.
Any Christian knows that The Blood of THE LAMB over us makes us righteous.
VERY WELL SAID.
Why would he choose to do them this way? Or is it just an excuse we humans use to explain the inexplicable and justify our own delusions of grandeur?
2. One of those tendencies, at least, tends to be to provide EVIDENCE FOR FAITH for those genuinely interested; genuinely with hearts toward God--while still leaving the rebellious and arrogant stuck apart from God with only their rebelliousness and arrogance for comfort.
Producing "evidence" for faith totally invalidates the concept of faith. Faith is to believe without proof, to accept a clearly defined Truth and believe in an order to the universe that is not otherwise self-evident.
3. Those of us with vibrant, intense, intimate relationships with God have plenty of dialogue with Him and need no 'concrete proof.'
That is faith.
Some may need a boost toward faith. God is loving enough to provide it. It's still TRUE THAT: THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH. But an introduction to God fostered by GROUNDS for faith, is fine.
That is not faith. If you need a dog and pony show to accept a faith as your own, then your faith is a weak and shallow thing. These are the type of people who propped up the Psychic Friends Network for so long.
This Bible Code dreck is just another way for the accredited Shylocks to fleece the credulous. The fact that they have promoters of good faith backing them is a sad testament to the lack of skepticism and good sense these days.
The article you posted is nonsense and way behind the art AND SCIENCE of the codes currently.
Those pseudo codes are far too short and low in quality to qualify as an authentic code currently.
Also, worth noting, the professional mathematicians first and most loudly naysaying the codes were proven to be dishonest in their paper and public statements and doings about the whole topic.
Exactly, if God's existence is "proven", then who would reject him? Everyone, regardless of their goodness, would want to be on the side of the omnipotent all powerful being.
It takes no effort to have faith to a God that know is there, and ultimately that why we're here. This place, here and now, is the real test faith, if you can keep your faith even here, without being able to materially sense him, only then do you confirm your faith to be real.
That's why it's so funny that people say "if god exist why doesn't he just show himself and prove it, then I'd believe in him." God is not being tested, we are, and God isn't about the bail us not by answering the question for us.
Actually, it might depend on what one defines as concrete proof.
The elegance and complexity of some of the codes is mind boggling enough to be a pretty concrete form of proof of God's timeless majesty.
Some appear to be holographic and certainly some are 3D.
I agree totally, and further, its not too complicated, its completely unrelated. "My kingdom is not of this Earth." I don't think anything scientists do or will ever do will ever even touch on the mystery and majesty of god. That's like a monkey trying to divine the mysteries of Euclid by playing with a book. Humans haven't even begun to scratch at the depths of knowlege and understanding of the universe or even of raality and spirituality. To think that someday we'll be so smart we will be able to understand on the level of God through scientific exploration is ridiculous. I'm sure the next generation will find we are as ignorant now as the flat-earthers were back in the day, and so on. Its funny how smug the intelligensia is about how 'advanced' we have become. Christianity is about being humble and hating our own pride. I think its presumptuous to even suggest we will ever be able to think on the level of the Creator.
I agree.
Compared to a LONG list of other spiritual priorities, I think the Codes are minor.
However, for THOSE INDIVIDUALS who are encouraged toward faith and an eternal relationship with God through the Codes--they won't turn out to have been minor AT ALL.
God gives all creation a wealth of evidence in an amazingly great diversity of modes, styles, versions, types etc. on a lot of levels. Most incredibly beautiful and elegant.
I'm not about to tell Him that HE can't do it with the Codes or that even if HE did it--it's worthless.
HE NEVER
does anything that's worthless.
I forget the Scripture which seems to describe the development of the automobile. Certainly the Old Testament described knowledge being massively increased and man going 'to and fro' upon the earth evidently routinely and much much more so than ever before. . . . all in the end times.
You are just plain wrong. Jewish scholars have been doing this for ages without the aid of computers, just studying it and comparing it in many different ways - largely for themselves and their own edification. It is part of the ways of the extremely learned Rabbis, but was never for everyone.
You are simply wrong and have obviously NOT fairmindedly or honestly examined the latest evidence.
CHECK OUT THE FACTS. At BIBLECODEDIGEST.COM
Your analogy is grossly flawed, inapplicable, silly vis a vis the authentic Codes.
When someone tries to use this as "proof" of God's existence it becomes immediately problematic on many fronts. Obviously a skeptic will be skeptical and the faithful will agree without much scientific proofing.
AMEN!
God delights to hide things for HIS KIDS to discover. Perhaps much as a father hiding things for his children to find at Christmas.
It's a bit more complicated than that. PLEASE CHECK OUT THE LATEST RESEARCH AT:
http://www.biblecodedigest.com/page.php/9
AND
http://www.biblecodedigest.com/
And, as some research suggests, we don't need the vowels that much in English to make perfect sense out of it.
In any case, the differences between the HEBREW OF WAR AND PEACE are exceedingly different CODE WISE compared to the authentic Codes in Scripture.
Persons of similar heritage discovered "zero" and Islam.
I'd be willing to bet good money that you have not actually ever read the Bible.
If I am wrong on that, then I would bet again that you have not ever given it an honest study. I have no doubt concerning that.
Perhaps Qabbala is BullSheite, but certainly the Universe thrives on order. I am not a student of Qaballa but I know a bit of it. I know a bit about a few other things as well.
Job 38 (King James Version)
4Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=22&chapter=38&version=9
But the least you could do is to fairly and thoroughly enough examine the latest evidence at the
http://www.biblecodedigest.com/
before pontificating so insitently and dismissively about it.
Oh, please. The KJV has at least as many errors as other good translations have. You should know that.
It may be good in many respects but perfect, it's not.
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