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Are The Sodomites In Control? No help from Rome - The Vatican is the problem
Roman Catholic Faithful | Fall/Winter 2003 | Stephen Brady

Posted on 12/09/2004 6:49:02 PM PST by Land of the Irish

Are The Sodomites In Control? No help from Rome - The Vatican is the problem By Stephen Brady

A "doctor" who obtained his degree and license to practice medicine by theft, blackmail and deception is not really a doctor despite the fact that he can legally practice medicine. A Catholic bishop is no different in my opinion. If he reached his position in life with lies, deception, blackmail, and/or sexual favors, he may legally be able to run the diocese but he is not a prince of the Church. We must expose the perverts who parade as bishops. The following statement by St. Alphonsus De Liguori perfectly predicts the very crisis that now exists within the Church.

"But how, I ask, does it happen that the saints, who live only for God, resist their ordination through a sense of their unworthiness, and that some run blindly to the priesthood, and rest not until they attain it by lawful or unlawful means? Ah. unhappy men! Says St. Bernard, to be registered among the priests of God shall be for them the same as to be enrolled on the catalogue of the damned. And why? Because such persons are generally called to the priesthood, not by God, but by relatives, by interest, or ambition. Thus they enter the house of God, not through the motive a priest should have, but through worldly motives. Behold why the faithful are abandoned, the Church dishonored, so many souls perish, and with them such priests are also damned. " St. Alphonsus De Liguori

Now from time to time, I do receive a complaint or two regarding my so-called "attacks" on the hierarchy. Some of the statements made to me are ;"The Pope doesn't know," "The Pope is kept in the dark,'" "He is surrounded by bad people," "The Vatican works quietly behind the scenes," and so on. To this I say, if the Pope didn't know he should have known. If he is surrounded by traitors - he should replace them with people he trusts. He has been Pope for 25 years which, I would think, is plenty of time to implement his plans and put his people into key positions.

If the Church's existence is about saving souls, then look at the present condition of the Church. If this is a great Pope, what condition would the Church be in if he was a bad Pope? I realize that someone out there might be thinking that "the Church deals in centuries." But I say to that, a lot of souls will be lost in another century-my family can't wait that long. Now I realize the Pope is not responsible for educating and raising my children, but he is responsible for appointing good holy bishops to run dioceses and remove them if they are proven to be unfit. If this Pope is a "great Pope," then we must assume that the people of Albany, Rochester, and Los Angeles (and many other cities) are best served by the likes of Bishops Hubbard, Clark, and Mahony.

Now if I may, let me point out several events that convinced me the problem is in Rome. A few years age an American bishop provided me with a fax number for Cardinal Ratzinger. He assured me the material sent via this fax would get through to the Cardinal. I know for a fact that the Cardinal did receive RCF's faxes because he acted on at least one of them.

I faxed to Cardinal Ratzinger comments made by Bishop Reginald Cawcutt of Capetown South Africa on the St. Sebastian's web site regarding Bishop Cawcutt being called to Rome. After his trip to Rome Cawcutt, not realizing RCF was still monitoring his Sebastian e-mails, commented on information I had sent to the Cardinal and the resulting effect. So it was clear to me that the Pope's number two man was aware of scandalous behavior on the pan of certain bishops RCF was investigating. The second and most important point is next.

Wednesday, January 14, 1998, Archbishop Francis George of Chicago (The Pope's retreat master) called me asking that RCF not hold the press conference we had scheduled to expose bishop Daniel Ryan for sodomizing teenage boys.

The Cardinal stated: "If your first priority is to remove Ryan - - do not go public." He said the Vaticar would not work through the press. He informed me that by going public we would be stuck with Ryan. I then askec the Cardinal, "You mean if I go public with this information, the Vatican (the Pope) will leave a sexual abuse. in power rather then face embarrassment?" He did not answer. He offered me (RCF) "a relationship with the hi. erarchy" if I (RCF) "remained obedient to the Church." Upon further questioning I realized this meant keeping my mouth shut.

Ryan was indeed left in power to destroy souls. In fact, 11 months later, Christmas 1998, Ryan had a sexual encounter with one Danny Evans (one of many of Ryan's sex partners RCF interviewed). Evans gave a statement regarding his long sexual relationship with Ryan to Springfield attorneys who later sued Ryan and helped force his removal. All of you can understand the implications of Cardinal George's statement and lack of action. It is heartbreaking to realize how corrupt and perverted the hierarchy has become.

RCF, through Fr. John Hardon and Cardinal George, was in contact with the former Papal Nuncio and Vatican officials whom we offered all the proof they needed to act against Ryan. The Vatican did nothing!

While I am not aware of all the power struggles that are going on within the American hierarchy, I can say that there is no excuse for Rome's inaction against Ryan. It became clear that Cardinal George, the Papal Nuncio, Ratzinger and Vatican Officials had betrayed the faithful. There is not enough memory on my computer to share all the information I have regarding Ryan and Rome.

In my opinion, to not publicly protest and denounce the current Vatican leadership is unacceptable and immoral. They have left known rapists in power to save embarrassment, thereby enabling them to continue to rape and destroy all in the name of respect for higher office. A Vatican official, cardinal, bishop or priest, who willingly and without so much as a word of public warning, knowingly places children (or souls under his care) at such risk is a disgrace.

In this issue of AMDG-We sure have come a long way regarding God's Law and Church teaching when it comes to homosexual activity (sodomy). Once upon a time, Scripture, Church teaching, and the Saints spoke out, in the strongest possible terms, against the vile, filthy acts of sodomites. Nowadays, in many once-Catholic parishes and dioceses, being inclined to commit sodomy is held up as a "gift" deserving of special status and recognition entitling the homosexual to special treatment, especially if the is a priest or bishop.

I am sure you have heard of or read about a number of cases in which orthodox clergy are punished or persecuted by their bishops for simply defending God's Law and speaking the truth, while their "feminine" counterparts (bishops & priests) have their immoral behavior overlooked or explained away. It is clear to me that the majority of the current hierarchy, both here and in Rome, are homosexual and/or effeminate in nature. The fact that the American bishops, (led by Bishop Gregory of Belleville, Illinois and Bishop Skylstad of Spokane, Washington) will not address the issue of the infiltration of homosexuals into the priesthood and bishops' ranks, prove they are not serious about addressing the child abuse crisis, and further shows they have most likely lost their faith. They are blinded by sin and cannot see the elephant in the sanctuary.

If a priest makes known his homosexual inclination, you can be sure he is promoting an agenda contrary to Church teaching. A celibate, orthodox priest, would have absolutely no reason whatsoever to make his sexual inclinations known to anyone. On the other hand, a priest or bishop who is guilty of unrepentant sexual sin would have the motive to (in order to ease his conscience) water down or deny Catholic moral teaching, downplay the need for confession, remove the crucifix, hide the tabernacle, and take liberties with the Mass. All this he will counter with a strong emphasis on so-called social justice.

Let us glance back at scripture, tradition and Church teaching regarding the issue of homosexuality and see just how far our current hierarchy has fallen.

Romans 1: (Douay-Rheims) 18 For the wrath of God is revealed trom heaven against all ungodliness and injustice of those men that detain the truth of God in injustice:...22 For professing themselves to be wise, they became fools... For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature. 27 And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was

due to their error.. Who having known the justice of God. did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death: and not only they that do them. but they also that consent to them that do them

The Book of the Prophet Isaias, Chapter 3 4 And I will give children to be their princes, and the effeminate shall rule over them... 8 For Jerusalem is ruined, and Juda is fallen: because their tongue, and their devices are against the Lord, to provoke the eyes of his majesty. 9 The shew of their countenance hath answered them: and they have proclaimed abroad their sin as Sodom, and they have not hid it: woe to their souls, for evils are rendered to them.

The Book of Leviticus, Chapter 20 13 If anyone lie with a man as with a woman, both have committed an abomination, let them be put to death: their blood be upon them.

The 1917 code of canon law- Canon 2359, paragraph 2 states: "If they (clerics) have committed an offense against the sixth commandment with minors under sixteen years of age, or been guilty of adultery, rape, bestiality, sodomy, traffic in vice, or incest with blood-relatives or relations by marriage in the first degree, they shall be suspended, declared infamous, deprived of every office, benefice dignity, or position that they may hold, and in more grievous cases they shall be deposed."

The Second Vatican Council however, repealed this law with the 1983 Code of Canon Law, which states in Canon 1395, paragraph 2: "A cleric who has offended in other ways against the sixth commandment of the Decalogue, if the crime was committed by force, or by threats, or in public, or with a minor under the age of sixteen years, is to be punished with just penalties (?), not excluding dismissal from the clerical state if the case so warrants."

This watered-down Canon from the revised 1983 code of Canon Law was a major step toward neutralizing God's law regarding sodomy. It also gave homosexual bishops the ability to retain child abusing clergy as well as sodomite bishops and priests without directly violating canon law.

In this issue of AMDG we will provide you with a number of examples that, in my opinion, prove the majority of our current "serving" bishops and Vatican hierarchy are either without faith, or blinded by sin, and have no intention of taking the steps necessary to correct the many abuses found within the Church today. Only by cutting off the flow of money into the bishops' personal coffers will positive change come about. Without their lavish lifestyles the current leadership, with few exceptions, will fade away.

No help from Rome - According to a report that appeared in the July 25,2003 issue of The Tidings, (the diocesan newspaper for the Archdiocese of Los Angeles), titled "Cardinals concelebrate historic Mass..." Cardinal Francis Arinze (A Vatican official) made it clear that the faithful would receive no help from Rome and that Vatican authorities would not confront or discipline errant bishops; He "cautioned that, as a Vatican official, neither he nor 'the Vatican' can simply step in 'like a firefighter' to resolve problems within a particular parish or diocese. 'For me to lecture the bishops...on what to do about a particular situation is not appropriate. ' 'It is much better if you yourselves approach your priests and bishops. '"

An article by Janet Tu titled- "Bishop attacks media coverage of sex scandal," that appeared in the Saturday, September 6,2003 Seattle Times, proves, in my opinion, that Bishop Wilton Gregory, President of the Bishops' Conference while, he's not a hit-and-run bishop like O'Brien, he's sure asleep at the wheel.

According to the article, Bishop Gregory, criticized the way the media "obsessively covered" the Church's clergy sexual-abuse scandal and said dioceses across the country are taking significant steps to comply with an abuseprevention policy passed last year. Gregory, speaking at the Religion Newswriters Association's conference in Seattle, criticized the media for "linking child sexual abuse solely to Catholic clerics" and for not digging into such abuses in other professions and society at large. Crybaby Bishop Gregory responds to the current abuse scandal by stating: "Well, they did it too!" Catholics deserve better than this transparent jackass. By the way, Bishop Gregory sees no problem with homosexuals in the seminary. No surprise there.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic
KEYWORDS: catholic; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; rcf; rome; sodomites; stephenbrady; wiltongregory
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To: torqemada

Rather nice screen-name.


41 posted on 12/10/2004 8:57:57 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Unam Sanctam; Maximilian; ultima ratio
If this is not undermining the legitimate authority of the Pope, questioning Christ's promise to Peter about the gates of hell and promoting schismatic parallel structures,

Relax...it isn't. The Pope is "undermining" his own legitimate authority by not using it to punish these dispicaple clergymen - be they perverts, heretics or apostates. It's rather ironic that those who are accused of being against the Pope, or "out of communion" with him, are the only ones who look to him to remedy this crisis. If Traditional Catholics did not recognize the Pope's authority, as we are so often accused, you could hardly expect us to expect him to use it. We *do* expect him to use it.

Nobody is "questioning Christ's promise." We know how this will end. Hell will be crushed, Heaven will triumph. But Our Lord never promised that Hell would not try its damnest to destroy the Church. Nor did Our Lord ever tell us to sit back complacently and let Hell attack.
42 posted on 12/10/2004 9:02:37 AM PST by sempertrad
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To: marshmallow

"I think it's fair to say that he 'flirted' with sedevacantism, at times appearing to cross the line into that area while at other times backing away from it."

Why should it be surprising that someone who takes his Catholic faith seriously should have "flirted" with sedevacantism? It is inevitable that the Pontiff--who has admitted praying WITH animists and who has given the red hat to public heretics--should raise eyebrows. I give him the benefit of a doubt myself--but real doubts remain. His pontificate has been extremely damaging to the Church--and the destruction continues to this day.


43 posted on 12/10/2004 9:04:03 AM PST by ultima ratio
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To: thor76; investigateworld

Don't mis-apprehend the nature of authority in the Church. It's not like General Motors, where a VP can fire a Manager, who could fire a Supervisor, who could fire a staff associate.

When you come right down to it, Cardinals and Bishops are exactly the same in their scope of responsibilities--they are responsible for a particular 'territory,' period.

Only the Pope can "fire" someone, although it's not done often, and NEVER has been done often. Easy to see why: Christ not only selected Judas, He did NOT fire him.

Later on, it took a lot for some notorious heretics to 'get fired,'--usually it was after fairly lengthy exchanges of letters wherein it became clear that the heretic would not recant.

Luther wasn't fired--he quit.

We could go on. The answer is likely somewhere in CSLewis' essay on the problem of evil...


44 posted on 12/10/2004 9:05:12 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Unam Sanctam
Thanks for letting me know that you are not Catholic.

THIS long it took you?

45 posted on 12/10/2004 9:06:57 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot
2Vat closed long before 1983. The Pope (or his assistants) wrote the new Canon Law; only the Pope can promulgate it. 2Vat had nothing whatever to do with it.

From the Apostolic Constitution promulgating the 1983 Code of Canon Laws.

This mark of collegiality by which the process of this Code’s origin was prominently characterized, is entirely in harmony with the teaching authority and the nature of the Second Vatican Council. The Code therefore, not only because of its content but because also of its origin, demonstrates the spirit of this Council in whose documents the Church, the universal sacrament of salvation (cf. Const. Lumen Gentium, n. 9, 48) is presented as the People of God, and its hierarchical constitution is shown as founded on the College of Bishops together with its Head.

For this reason therefore, the Bishops and Episcopal Conferences were invited to associate themselves with the work of preparing the new Code, so that through a task of such length, in as collegial a manner as possible, little by little the juridical formulae would come to maturity and would then serve the whole Church.

The instrument, such as the Code is, fully accords with the nature of the Church, particularly as presented in the authentic teaching of the Second Vatican Council seen as a whole, and especially in its ecclesiological doctrine. In fact, in a certain sense, this new Code can be viewed as a great effort to translate the conciliar ecclesiological teaching into canonical terms.

Indeed it is possible to assert that from this derives that characteristic whereby the Code is regarded as a complement to the authentic teaching proposed by the Second Vatican Council and particularly to its Dogmatic and Pastoral Constitutions. From this it follows that the fundamental basis of the ‘newness’ which, while never straying from the Church’s legislative tradition, is found in the Second Vatican Council and especially in its ecclesiological teaching, generates also the mark of ‘newness’ in the new Code.

Foremost among the elements which express the true and authentic image of the Church are: the teaching whereby the Church is presented as the People of God (cf. Const. Lumen Gentium, n. 2) and its hierarchical authority as service (ibid n. 3); the further teaching which portrays the Church as a communion and then spells out the mutual relationships which must intervene between the particular and the universal Church, and between collegiality and primacy; likewise, the teaching by which all members of the People of God share, each in their own measure, in the threefold priestly, prophetic and kingly office of Christ, with which teaching is associated also that which looks to the duties and rights of Christ’s faithful and specifically the laity; and lastly the assiduity which the Church must devote to ecumenism.

Thanks for inspiring me to find this and look it up. I had no idea just how bad this introduction to the Canon Law was. I had heard about a lot of bad things in the new Code, and this apostolic constitution summarizes that spirit that inspired the problems.
46 posted on 12/10/2004 9:07:30 AM PST by Maximilian
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To: marshmallow

Yeah--I agree that Brady's gotten more strident in the last 24 months or so. I hope it's merely frustration...


47 posted on 12/10/2004 9:08:45 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Dominick

"Traditionalists, take the stand that by leaving the Church they can fix it from the outside"

We take no such stand. We haven't left the Church. Traditionalism as a powerful movement of faith is going on WITHIN the Church. Get used to it.


48 posted on 12/10/2004 9:09:16 AM PST by ultima ratio
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To: marshmallow

Quite honestly, I fear (and I MEAN fear) that Brady's statement may be true--that a majority of USBishops are queers.

But to get there, one has to include the 'retired' ones as well as the active ones. I suspect that among the 'active' Bishops, it's a large minority and decreasing.


49 posted on 12/10/2004 9:12:14 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Unam Sanctam
and promoting schismatic parallel structures, I don't know what is

"Surprise, surprise"--as Andy said to Barney (or was it the reverse?)

50 posted on 12/10/2004 9:16:50 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: FrankWild
Father Martin claims that John Paul II as way back as 1978 considered the Church unsalvagable as an institution and decided to become a "geopolitical pope."

This simply cannot be true. You have stated that the Pope dis-believes the Promise of Christ (...'shall not prevail..')

Perhaps your recollection is imprecise.

51 posted on 12/10/2004 9:20:50 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ArrogantBustard
TTGC: "No, Your Excellency, we expect you to repent!"

You forgot the rest of the sentence:

...and you have about 3 minutes in which to repent, after which you will be incinerated.

TTGC Chief Prosecutor to ArBus: "STRIKE THE MATCH!!!"

It's ok--I didn't send you the policy/procedures manual yet.

52 posted on 12/10/2004 9:27:20 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot
You have stated that the Pope dis-believes the Promise of Christ (...'shall not prevail..')

What's so implausible about that? The Pope also believes muslims worship the Holy Trinity, something the muslims, themselves, strongly deny.

53 posted on 12/10/2004 9:32:33 AM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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To: Dominick
Just as it is morally wrong (slanderous) to paint all Catholic laymen who assist at and all priests who offer the Mass according to the Novus Ordo as modernist heretics, it is morally wrong (slanderous) to paint all Catholics who assist or offer the Mass according to the Tridentine ordo as schismatics. Many places offer the Tridentine Mass completely in communion with the local Bishop. Others seem to have schismatic tendencies, but don't completely act on them. Yet others have, by claiming that there is currently no Pope (or claiming that there is one, but his name isn't John Paul II) have removed themselves from the Church. There is a tendency on this forum to pit "Rad-trad schizzies" against "Novus Ordonian modernists" and try to force every Catholic into one or the other camp. This dichotomy does not reflect reality.
54 posted on 12/10/2004 9:39:13 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Well said.

OTOH, it is certainly true that some posters to these threads are excommunicandi by their own hand (so to speak.)


55 posted on 12/10/2004 9:41:10 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot
Match? What match? We ain't got no matches. We don't need no stinkin Matches!

We now use a highly reliable, all weather electronic ignition device, modified from designs used in the Patriot Missile System.

56 posted on 12/10/2004 9:45:02 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ninenot
"Surprise, surprise"--as Andy said to Barney (or was it the reverse?)

Actually, "Surprise, Surprise, Surprise" was the tag line of the character Gomer Pyle, who started out running a gas station in Mayberry before joing the Marines...

57 posted on 12/10/2004 9:59:21 AM PST by jscd3
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To: ArrogantBustard

Kewl!!


58 posted on 12/10/2004 10:03:15 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ArrogantBustard

"There is a tendency on this forum to pit "Rad-trad schizzies" against "Novus Ordonian modernists" and try to force every Catholic into one or the other camp. This dichotomy does not reflect reality."

Well spoken. I attend the local N.O. despite the modernism I encounter weekly.
If however all the available N.O. Masses were irreverent, sacriligious, or invalid (as indeed some of them have been); I would not hesitate to drive to Portland to attend an SSPX Mass whenever possible. So far, I have not been put in this position.


60 posted on 12/10/2004 10:10:59 AM PST by rogator
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