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Are The Sodomites In Control? No help from Rome - The Vatican is the problem
Roman Catholic Faithful | Fall/Winter 2003 | Stephen Brady

Posted on 12/09/2004 6:49:02 PM PST by Land of the Irish

Are The Sodomites In Control? No help from Rome - The Vatican is the problem By Stephen Brady

A "doctor" who obtained his degree and license to practice medicine by theft, blackmail and deception is not really a doctor despite the fact that he can legally practice medicine. A Catholic bishop is no different in my opinion. If he reached his position in life with lies, deception, blackmail, and/or sexual favors, he may legally be able to run the diocese but he is not a prince of the Church. We must expose the perverts who parade as bishops. The following statement by St. Alphonsus De Liguori perfectly predicts the very crisis that now exists within the Church.

"But how, I ask, does it happen that the saints, who live only for God, resist their ordination through a sense of their unworthiness, and that some run blindly to the priesthood, and rest not until they attain it by lawful or unlawful means? Ah. unhappy men! Says St. Bernard, to be registered among the priests of God shall be for them the same as to be enrolled on the catalogue of the damned. And why? Because such persons are generally called to the priesthood, not by God, but by relatives, by interest, or ambition. Thus they enter the house of God, not through the motive a priest should have, but through worldly motives. Behold why the faithful are abandoned, the Church dishonored, so many souls perish, and with them such priests are also damned. " St. Alphonsus De Liguori

Now from time to time, I do receive a complaint or two regarding my so-called "attacks" on the hierarchy. Some of the statements made to me are ;"The Pope doesn't know," "The Pope is kept in the dark,'" "He is surrounded by bad people," "The Vatican works quietly behind the scenes," and so on. To this I say, if the Pope didn't know he should have known. If he is surrounded by traitors - he should replace them with people he trusts. He has been Pope for 25 years which, I would think, is plenty of time to implement his plans and put his people into key positions.

If the Church's existence is about saving souls, then look at the present condition of the Church. If this is a great Pope, what condition would the Church be in if he was a bad Pope? I realize that someone out there might be thinking that "the Church deals in centuries." But I say to that, a lot of souls will be lost in another century-my family can't wait that long. Now I realize the Pope is not responsible for educating and raising my children, but he is responsible for appointing good holy bishops to run dioceses and remove them if they are proven to be unfit. If this Pope is a "great Pope," then we must assume that the people of Albany, Rochester, and Los Angeles (and many other cities) are best served by the likes of Bishops Hubbard, Clark, and Mahony.

Now if I may, let me point out several events that convinced me the problem is in Rome. A few years age an American bishop provided me with a fax number for Cardinal Ratzinger. He assured me the material sent via this fax would get through to the Cardinal. I know for a fact that the Cardinal did receive RCF's faxes because he acted on at least one of them.

I faxed to Cardinal Ratzinger comments made by Bishop Reginald Cawcutt of Capetown South Africa on the St. Sebastian's web site regarding Bishop Cawcutt being called to Rome. After his trip to Rome Cawcutt, not realizing RCF was still monitoring his Sebastian e-mails, commented on information I had sent to the Cardinal and the resulting effect. So it was clear to me that the Pope's number two man was aware of scandalous behavior on the pan of certain bishops RCF was investigating. The second and most important point is next.

Wednesday, January 14, 1998, Archbishop Francis George of Chicago (The Pope's retreat master) called me asking that RCF not hold the press conference we had scheduled to expose bishop Daniel Ryan for sodomizing teenage boys.

The Cardinal stated: "If your first priority is to remove Ryan - - do not go public." He said the Vaticar would not work through the press. He informed me that by going public we would be stuck with Ryan. I then askec the Cardinal, "You mean if I go public with this information, the Vatican (the Pope) will leave a sexual abuse. in power rather then face embarrassment?" He did not answer. He offered me (RCF) "a relationship with the hi. erarchy" if I (RCF) "remained obedient to the Church." Upon further questioning I realized this meant keeping my mouth shut.

Ryan was indeed left in power to destroy souls. In fact, 11 months later, Christmas 1998, Ryan had a sexual encounter with one Danny Evans (one of many of Ryan's sex partners RCF interviewed). Evans gave a statement regarding his long sexual relationship with Ryan to Springfield attorneys who later sued Ryan and helped force his removal. All of you can understand the implications of Cardinal George's statement and lack of action. It is heartbreaking to realize how corrupt and perverted the hierarchy has become.

RCF, through Fr. John Hardon and Cardinal George, was in contact with the former Papal Nuncio and Vatican officials whom we offered all the proof they needed to act against Ryan. The Vatican did nothing!

While I am not aware of all the power struggles that are going on within the American hierarchy, I can say that there is no excuse for Rome's inaction against Ryan. It became clear that Cardinal George, the Papal Nuncio, Ratzinger and Vatican Officials had betrayed the faithful. There is not enough memory on my computer to share all the information I have regarding Ryan and Rome.

In my opinion, to not publicly protest and denounce the current Vatican leadership is unacceptable and immoral. They have left known rapists in power to save embarrassment, thereby enabling them to continue to rape and destroy all in the name of respect for higher office. A Vatican official, cardinal, bishop or priest, who willingly and without so much as a word of public warning, knowingly places children (or souls under his care) at such risk is a disgrace.

In this issue of AMDG-We sure have come a long way regarding God's Law and Church teaching when it comes to homosexual activity (sodomy). Once upon a time, Scripture, Church teaching, and the Saints spoke out, in the strongest possible terms, against the vile, filthy acts of sodomites. Nowadays, in many once-Catholic parishes and dioceses, being inclined to commit sodomy is held up as a "gift" deserving of special status and recognition entitling the homosexual to special treatment, especially if the is a priest or bishop.

I am sure you have heard of or read about a number of cases in which orthodox clergy are punished or persecuted by their bishops for simply defending God's Law and speaking the truth, while their "feminine" counterparts (bishops & priests) have their immoral behavior overlooked or explained away. It is clear to me that the majority of the current hierarchy, both here and in Rome, are homosexual and/or effeminate in nature. The fact that the American bishops, (led by Bishop Gregory of Belleville, Illinois and Bishop Skylstad of Spokane, Washington) will not address the issue of the infiltration of homosexuals into the priesthood and bishops' ranks, prove they are not serious about addressing the child abuse crisis, and further shows they have most likely lost their faith. They are blinded by sin and cannot see the elephant in the sanctuary.

If a priest makes known his homosexual inclination, you can be sure he is promoting an agenda contrary to Church teaching. A celibate, orthodox priest, would have absolutely no reason whatsoever to make his sexual inclinations known to anyone. On the other hand, a priest or bishop who is guilty of unrepentant sexual sin would have the motive to (in order to ease his conscience) water down or deny Catholic moral teaching, downplay the need for confession, remove the crucifix, hide the tabernacle, and take liberties with the Mass. All this he will counter with a strong emphasis on so-called social justice.

Let us glance back at scripture, tradition and Church teaching regarding the issue of homosexuality and see just how far our current hierarchy has fallen.

Romans 1: (Douay-Rheims) 18 For the wrath of God is revealed trom heaven against all ungodliness and injustice of those men that detain the truth of God in injustice:...22 For professing themselves to be wise, they became fools... For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature. 27 And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was

due to their error.. Who having known the justice of God. did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death: and not only they that do them. but they also that consent to them that do them

The Book of the Prophet Isaias, Chapter 3 4 And I will give children to be their princes, and the effeminate shall rule over them... 8 For Jerusalem is ruined, and Juda is fallen: because their tongue, and their devices are against the Lord, to provoke the eyes of his majesty. 9 The shew of their countenance hath answered them: and they have proclaimed abroad their sin as Sodom, and they have not hid it: woe to their souls, for evils are rendered to them.

The Book of Leviticus, Chapter 20 13 If anyone lie with a man as with a woman, both have committed an abomination, let them be put to death: their blood be upon them.

The 1917 code of canon law- Canon 2359, paragraph 2 states: "If they (clerics) have committed an offense against the sixth commandment with minors under sixteen years of age, or been guilty of adultery, rape, bestiality, sodomy, traffic in vice, or incest with blood-relatives or relations by marriage in the first degree, they shall be suspended, declared infamous, deprived of every office, benefice dignity, or position that they may hold, and in more grievous cases they shall be deposed."

The Second Vatican Council however, repealed this law with the 1983 Code of Canon Law, which states in Canon 1395, paragraph 2: "A cleric who has offended in other ways against the sixth commandment of the Decalogue, if the crime was committed by force, or by threats, or in public, or with a minor under the age of sixteen years, is to be punished with just penalties (?), not excluding dismissal from the clerical state if the case so warrants."

This watered-down Canon from the revised 1983 code of Canon Law was a major step toward neutralizing God's law regarding sodomy. It also gave homosexual bishops the ability to retain child abusing clergy as well as sodomite bishops and priests without directly violating canon law.

In this issue of AMDG we will provide you with a number of examples that, in my opinion, prove the majority of our current "serving" bishops and Vatican hierarchy are either without faith, or blinded by sin, and have no intention of taking the steps necessary to correct the many abuses found within the Church today. Only by cutting off the flow of money into the bishops' personal coffers will positive change come about. Without their lavish lifestyles the current leadership, with few exceptions, will fade away.

No help from Rome - According to a report that appeared in the July 25,2003 issue of The Tidings, (the diocesan newspaper for the Archdiocese of Los Angeles), titled "Cardinals concelebrate historic Mass..." Cardinal Francis Arinze (A Vatican official) made it clear that the faithful would receive no help from Rome and that Vatican authorities would not confront or discipline errant bishops; He "cautioned that, as a Vatican official, neither he nor 'the Vatican' can simply step in 'like a firefighter' to resolve problems within a particular parish or diocese. 'For me to lecture the bishops...on what to do about a particular situation is not appropriate. ' 'It is much better if you yourselves approach your priests and bishops. '"

An article by Janet Tu titled- "Bishop attacks media coverage of sex scandal," that appeared in the Saturday, September 6,2003 Seattle Times, proves, in my opinion, that Bishop Wilton Gregory, President of the Bishops' Conference while, he's not a hit-and-run bishop like O'Brien, he's sure asleep at the wheel.

According to the article, Bishop Gregory, criticized the way the media "obsessively covered" the Church's clergy sexual-abuse scandal and said dioceses across the country are taking significant steps to comply with an abuseprevention policy passed last year. Gregory, speaking at the Religion Newswriters Association's conference in Seattle, criticized the media for "linking child sexual abuse solely to Catholic clerics" and for not digging into such abuses in other professions and society at large. Crybaby Bishop Gregory responds to the current abuse scandal by stating: "Well, they did it too!" Catholics deserve better than this transparent jackass. By the way, Bishop Gregory sees no problem with homosexuals in the seminary. No surprise there.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic
KEYWORDS: catholic; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; rcf; rome; sodomites; stephenbrady; wiltongregory
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1 posted on 12/09/2004 6:49:03 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Andrew65; AniGrrl; apologia_pro_vita_sua; attagirl; BearWash; ...
Crybaby Bishop Gregory responds to the current abuse scandal by stating: "Well, they did it too!" Catholics deserve better than this transparent jackass. By the way, Bishop Gregory sees no problem with homosexuals in the seminary. No surprise there.
2 posted on 12/09/2004 6:57:13 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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To: Land of the Irish

"Cardinal Francis Arinze (A Vatican official) made it clear that the faithful would receive no help from Rome and that Vatican authorities would not confront or discipline errant bishops"

...but why does the Vatican persist in promoting all these modernist dissidents to archbishop and cardinal?


3 posted on 12/09/2004 7:28:21 PM PST by AskStPhilomena
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To: Land of the Irish

Where is the inquisition when we need it? I am not talking about burning at the stake but drumming the perverts out of the corp.
Why do the Roman powers allow this crap to happen?
Why has Steve Brady done more to expose the perverts than the entire episcopate?
We are in worse shape then when the Borgia popes were in power. At least they did their messing around with women.


4 posted on 12/09/2004 7:38:39 PM PST by rogator
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To: Land of the Irish

It should be pointed out that Brady was not always hostile to Rome. Initially, like most Catholics, he believed the Pope was on the side of the faithful who complained about outright malfeasance and perversion. But reality gradually intruded and over the years he has come to understand that this is a pontiff who not only makes very bad appointments, but also has very little interest in reforming a Church that is badly corrupted. Much more typical has been the Pontiff's coverups and efforts at damage control--the public slaps on the wrists, followed by private rewards.

Cardinal George, by the way, who warned Brady to lay off Ryan so that the Vatican could tend to the situation, himself now uses Ryan for ecclesiastical duties, even had him joining himself and other bishops at the recent consecration of a fellow bishop, as if he had never resigned in disgrace and were a model of moral rectitude. Yet this was a man who picked up male prostitutes routinely--including some who were under the age of consent--sexually pressured and harrassed other clergy, and deliberately instituted values-neutral sex-education classes on oral sex and homosexuality in Catholic elementary schools, despite the protests of concerned parents.


5 posted on 12/09/2004 7:55:41 PM PST by ultima ratio
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Long article, impassioned, says it all.

The fact that members of the Catholic hierarchy tolerate or cover up sodomy (what to speak of commit it themselves) is sickening. It's worse to be a wolf in sheeps' clothing than it is to be an out and out wolf.

Obviously any man (or woman) with same sex attraction disorder should never enter holy orders* or engage in any profession or position where they will be around young people.

*(Don't know if that's the right word)

Let me and ItsOurTimeNow know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.

I know some people will think it's too extreme, but sodomy should be re-criminalized, and anyone molesting or seducing any minors should be - well, you don't want to know what I think.


6 posted on 12/09/2004 7:59:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: ultima ratio

More on George:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1298314/posts


7 posted on 12/09/2004 8:19:20 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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To: little jeremiah
but sodomy should be re-criminalized

Agreed...

who is guilty of unrepentant sexual sin

Says it all. We all sin, but those who justify it as good, right and true deserve the bottom of hell. Including their enablers.

8 posted on 12/09/2004 8:36:17 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks

bump


9 posted on 12/09/2004 9:01:53 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Land of the Irish
If a priest makes known his homosexual inclination, you can be sure he is promoting an agenda contrary to Church teaching. A celibate, orthodox priest, would have absolutely no reason whatsoever to make his sexual inclinations known to anyone. On the other hand, a priest or bishop who is guilty of unrepentant sexual sin would have the motive to (in order to ease his conscience) water down or deny Catholic moral teaching, downplay the need for confession, remove the crucifix, hide the tabernacle, and take liberties with the Mass. All this he will counter with a strong emphasis on so-called social justice.

Pretty much this echoes my observations -where there is smoke, there is fire. Advocates of 'social justice' that is counter to Truth are simply advocates for injustice and in pursuit of only sefish agenda.

10 posted on 12/09/2004 9:29:12 PM PST by DBeers
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To: Land of the Irish

Thank you "Land" for posting this. I am passing along the statement by St. Alphonsus De Liguori to my Anglican brothers & sisters. The Episcopal Church USA is broken, too, because of the evil done by self-serving, sodomite priests & bishops. What fools we are to allow such evil to infiltrate the Church, unchallenged.


11 posted on 12/09/2004 11:11:56 PM PST by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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To: torqemada
Somebody help a snake wav'n Prot here. Don't Cardinals have authority to step in and do a little @ss kick'n and name taking?
These deviants are bring shame to those of us of Faith, regardless of "brand".;
12 posted on 12/09/2004 11:17:50 PM PST by investigateworld ((Please Lord, just one more bite on the apple ))
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To: Land of the Irish

What makes the situation worse - when realized in its full import - is that this started a long time ago. There were some well placed gay priests, seminary professors, and prelates long before vatican II. While there have always been a few (very few) gays priests in the past, I am referring to two generations ago.

WE know from Bella Dodd and others, that there were as a matter of fact communist moles who entered into seminaries worldwide, for the explicit purpose of infiltrating and subverting the church from within. They decided to use personal vice - namely homosexuality - as the tool.

At first, gay priests could be blackmailed into compliance with a particular agenda. LAter, as we approached the year 1960, they began to get the upper hand. In the 60s, 70s, and 80s they were eagerly recruited. Those in turn recruited like minded men. We then had a situation where teh gay priest were no longer the subject of blackmail to conform to an agenda.

Not blackmail in the literal sense of exposure for what they were. But the blackmail of solidarity in persula of a unified agenda - which was tantamount to the internal autodestruction of the church by slow degrees. nobody can dissent from "the agenda", hence it is called the "superforce".

A gay priest who comes to truly know God and desire repentance and amendment of life cannot....easily. Lest he lose his position, be "hung out to dry", or killed altogether.....especially if he talks to abyone of these things. So they are literally trapped.

There are a few brave ones, who labor in secret to try to do what earnest good they can in the church. But they accomplish only a little, and had better do it very quietly.

Help is available - but not my mere human means. God has offered it to us in the form of the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. But for the moment, we must wait upon God to act.


13 posted on 12/09/2004 11:31:48 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux! St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: investigateworld

Indeed these deviants are a shame to those of faith.

Here is the problem: since the Catholic church is the first church from which all Christian churches sprung....what affects it, will affect all........to a greater or lesser degree. That much sould be obvious.

Cardinals? According to one Catholic seer: "the red hats have fallen (Cardinals)......and also the purple(Bishops)".

Yes, Cardinals indeed have great authority. But like JUdas, they have sold their Lord for 30 pieces of silver.

All those who believe in and love the Lord Jesus Christ must pray.......and pray hard. All of us....Catholics, Baptists, evangelicals........all must pray and do penance for their lives, as we all have sinned. The Sinless One alone can and will help us.


14 posted on 12/09/2004 11:38:12 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux! St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: thor76

I can only say: AMEN!


15 posted on 12/09/2004 11:55:17 PM PST by investigateworld (( ))
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To: thor76

Once again you are on the money Thor. So goes the Church, so goes the world.


16 posted on 12/10/2004 4:29:04 AM PST by murphE ("I ain't no physicist, but I know what matters." - Popeye)
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To: ultima ratio

As far as I know, RCF does not promote schismatic parallel structures, but I'm certainly not surprised to see you using this article to promote them. The article points out problems and potential problems and expresses RCF's opinion on what the Pope and bishops should do. They are not undermining the legitimate authority of the Pope and the bishops, just saying they should be exercised to do certain things. That is all the difference in the world from schismatic Lefebvrists who want to pull down the temple, not cleanse and reform it. And I would point out that the Pope, as this article does not mention, has spoken out many times on the sinfulness of homosexual acts and the evil of same sex "marriage," and has been roundly condemned by liberal dissenters for it, but then I forgot, to you Lefebvrists, the Pope is worse than liberal dissenters.


17 posted on 12/10/2004 5:13:30 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam; ultima ratio
...I'm certainly not surprised to see you using this article to promote them.

You are making things up. Nothing was promoted in post #5. Ultima was merely stating facts.

You're so paranoid about the decline of the conciliar church, you see the SSPX behind every bush.

18 posted on 12/10/2004 5:32:36 AM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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To: investigateworld
Don't Cardinals have authority to step in

Being a Cardinal means one is a member of the College of Cardinals and therefore is eligible to elect a Pope or even to be elected Pope himself (if under the age of 75) - it's not really a "step up" from a Bishop. The Pope himself is properly called a Bishop, the Bishop of Rome.

Theorectically the Pope has the authority to correct Bishops but Vatican II "collegiality" has undermined the hiearchial nature of the ecclesial monarchy. While admirably based on the idea of subsidiarity in practice it has left Bishops completely free to do whatever they see fit in their diocese.

19 posted on 12/10/2004 5:37:44 AM PST by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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To: Land of the Irish

So it's the "conciliar church" is it, not the Catholic Church established by Christ on the rock of Peter and the pillar of the apostles. Thanks for letting me know that you are not Catholic.


20 posted on 12/10/2004 5:45:48 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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