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To: Harrymehome

(Perhaps I should have said that a micro-chip implanted in one's body will not automatically condemn that person and cause that person to loose his salvation.)

i think that really may depend on the purpose of the chip. if you take the chip to purchase food because you need to feed your family, while that may be the sensible thing to do and might very well avert tragedy...it may also show a lack of faith in the lords ability to provide for you...as someone who has managed to feed a family of 3 in recent years on $23 a week, i can attest to that ability.

i also think it may introduce some of the diseases into the popluation which ultimately become the foretold plagues...a couple of months ago i read an article in the philadelphia daily news, (it could also have been the metro. they do summary reporting of mainstream news around the country.), concerning a mutated version of an old staph infection which has been diagnosed in a handful of people. It is drug resistant and has more severe symptoms which are boils which eventually turn into open sores. it does eventually heal, but as you can imagine, it is very painful.


( There is no where in the Holy Word that a microchip or any other object is referred to as the Mark of the beast nor is the number 666. The chip or any other tool may be used by the soon coming Church/state, to track a persons activities, as you said, and attempt to change, by persecution, if necessary, a persons religious beliefs.)


this is true, but they also didn't know that we would have planes, trains, and automobiles to travel across the lands and around the world when it was given as a sign that we would be able to do so. they could not begin to imagine the technology of today and would have been at a loss to explain it.

( The Mark of the Beast, like many other terms used in the Holy Word, is symbolic. It is the counterfeit of the Mark of YHWH in the hand or the forehead. Were you aware that YHWH has a Mark in the hand or the forehead?)


yes i did...am still looking in earnest for it. :^)

i don't believe that gods mark is neccessarily counterfeit. for all i know the chip may turn out to be his, or it may be a naturally occurring thing that happens in our bodies like the opposition leader in the ukrain turning green (at least thats what it sounded like the news people said about his condition before he was hospitalized...i do hope i heard it wrong...scares me to think it might be true.). my take is that i'll wait and see who it is coming from before i take so much as a tattoo.

( Please read with me Deu 6:6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: Deu 6:7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. Deu 6:8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. These verses are referring to YHWH's 10 Commandments. )

(note reversal here)
that's at tat i'd be proud to have.


The Israelites used to use a tiflet (I probably misspelled it) tied around their wrist to remember YHWH's Mark or Law.)


what's a tiflet?


68 posted on 12/13/2004 12:21:06 AM PST by anonymo001
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To: anonymo001
You said:
the chip to purchase food because you need to feed your family, while that may be the sensible thing to do and might very well avert tragedy...it may also show a lack of faith in the lords ability to provide for you...as someone who has managed to feed a family of 3

In that case, the person looses his salvation because of a loss of faith. Not because he received the chip.

You said:
it may introduce some of the diseases into the popluation

Very unlikely. Alcohol and sterilization is always used when injections are performed. I'm sure you've been vaccinated before. You know that.

You said:
they also didn't know that we would have planes, trains, and automobiles to travel across the lands and around the world when it was given as a sign that we would be able to do so.

I'm not sure about what you're trying to say, but I get the impression that you believe that one will be able to escape from receiving the chip. That may be possible, but that doesn't mean that you're saved. Salvation is a spiritual matter. Has nothing to do with a chip or the number 666 being stamped on your head. In regards to this, I have a very simplistic question. Why is it the word worship used in Revelation, referrs to and is used in conjunction with the term Mark of the Beast, the Image to the Beast, or to the Anti-Christ himself? For example;
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
It's very clear and plain to see that the Mark of the Beast has to do with WORSHIP. The Most Holy Word of YHWH says it. In contrast, let's look at how the word "worship" is used in reference to YHWH. Please read the following;
Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
We see very plainly the connection or relation of the word worship with regards to the 4th commandment. Here's another verse that clearly portrays what the word WORSHIP refers to.
Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the
The Bible Sabbath is SATURDAY, not Sunday. In conclusion, look at:
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_letters/documents/hf_jp-ii_apl_05071998_dies-domini_en.html ( 104 page papal letter calling for civil legislation of Sunday Worship. See Chap. IV paragraph 67 and Chap.V paragraph 79)
http://www.blessedhope.org/sunday/detroitnews7-7.htm

You said:
i don't believe that gods mark is neccessarily counterfeit.

No, I didn't say that. The Mark of YHWH are the 10 commandments of Exodus 20:3-17. The Mark of the Beast are the false man-made 10 commandments. Go back and carefully re-read my previous post.

You said:
(note reversal here) that's at tat i'd be proud to have.

I don't understand what you're saying.

You said: what's a tiflet?

It's a small ribbon or cloth that was wrapped around the wrist as a reminder of YHWH's sacred Law.

YHWH Bless you in your search for the TRUTH

69 posted on 12/13/2004 6:37:21 AM PST by Harrymehome
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