In that case, the person looses his salvation because of a loss of faith. Not because he received the chip.
You said:
it may introduce some of the diseases into the popluation
Very unlikely. Alcohol and sterilization is always used when injections are performed. I'm sure you've been vaccinated before. You know that.
You said:
they also didn't know that we would have planes, trains, and automobiles to travel across the lands and around the world when it was given as a sign that we would be able to do so.
I'm not sure about what you're trying to say, but I get the impression that you believe that one will be able to escape from receiving the chip. That may be possible, but that doesn't mean that you're saved. Salvation is a spiritual matter. Has nothing to do with a chip or the number 666 being stamped on your head. In regards to this, I have a very simplistic question. Why is it the word worship used in Revelation, referrs to and is used in conjunction with the term Mark of the Beast, the Image to the Beast, or to the Anti-Christ himself? For example;
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
It's very clear and plain to see that the Mark of the Beast has to do with WORSHIP. The Most Holy Word of YHWH says it. In contrast, let's look at how the word "worship" is used in reference to YHWH. Please read the following;
Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
We see very plainly the connection or relation of the word worship with regards to the 4th commandment. Here's another verse that clearly portrays what the word WORSHIP refers to.
Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the
The Bible Sabbath is SATURDAY, not Sunday. In conclusion, look at:
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_letters/documents/hf_jp-ii_apl_05071998_dies-domini_en.html ( 104 page papal letter calling for civil legislation of Sunday Worship. See Chap. IV paragraph 67 and Chap.V paragraph 79)
http://www.blessedhope.org/sunday/detroitnews7-7.htm
You said:
i don't believe that gods mark is neccessarily counterfeit.
No, I didn't say that. The Mark of YHWH are the 10 commandments of Exodus 20:3-17. The Mark of the Beast are the false man-made 10 commandments. Go back and carefully re-read my previous post.
You said:
(note reversal here) that's at tat i'd be proud to have.
I don't understand what you're saying.
You said: what's a tiflet?
It's a small ribbon or cloth that was wrapped around the wrist as a reminder of YHWH's sacred Law.
YHWH Bless you in your search for the TRUTH
You said:
"the chip to purchase food because you need to feed your family, while that may be the sensible thing to do and might very well avert tragedy...it may also show a lack of faith in the lords ability to provide for you...as someone who has managed to feed a family of 3"
(In that case, the person looses his salvation because of a loss of faith. Not because he received the chip.)
agreed. but recieving it may be an expression of lack of faith.
You said:
"it may introduce some of the diseases into the popluation"
(Very unlikely. Alcohol and sterilization is always used when injections are performed. I'm sure you've been vaccinated before. You know that.)
in america and other developed countries this is gernerally true but, we had those precautions when aids began infecting the human population. mistakes were made and a small percentage of people contracted it through the blood supply...you also have to consider how many poor countries there are in the world. it's conceivable that some of those nations may not always have the supplies available to sterilize the instruments...and if your dealing with leaders who are more interested in the power it could symbolize to be able to have such information about their people and control them with it...they might not care one way or the other about the spread of diease. (saddam was a good example of such a leader.)
You said:
"they also didn't know that we would have planes, trains, and automobiles to travel across the lands and around the world when it was given as a sign that we would be able to do so."
(I'm not sure about what you're trying to say,)
that we would be able to travel from one place to another in such short periods of time and frequency with relative ease.
(but I get the impression that you believe that one will be able to escape from receiving the chip. That may be possible, but that doesn't mean that you're saved. Salvation is a spiritual matter. Has nothing to do with a chip or the number 666 being stamped on your head. In regards to this, I have a very simplistic question. Why is it the word worship used in Revelation, referrs to and is used in conjunction with the term Mark of the Beast, the Image to the Beast, or to the Anti-Christ himself? For example;
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
It's very clear and plain to see that the Mark of the Beast has to do with WORSHIP. The Most Holy Word of YHWH says it. In contrast, let's look at how the word "worship" is used in reference to YHWH. Please read the following;
Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
We see very plainly the connection or relation of the word worship with regards to the 4th commandment. Here's another verse that clearly portrays what the word WORSHIP refers to.
Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the
The Bible Sabbath is SATURDAY, not Sunday. In conclusion, look at:
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_letters/documents/hf_jp-ii_apl_05071998_dies-domini_en.html ( 104 page papal letter calling for civil legislation of Sunday Worship. See Chap. IV paragraph 67 and Chap.V paragraph 79)
http://www.blessedhope.org/sunday/detroitnews7-7.htm)
I conceed on this one. it's amazing the tricks ones mind can play on you. (like reading a mispelled word, and your mind automatically correcting it without your ever realizine the error.) in this case, the trick mine associated it as to recieve the mark, would automatically cause you to worship. (but i am staying open minded on that, because if the chip is the mark time will tell how it will be used.)
You said:
i don't believe that gods mark is neccessarily counterfeit.
(No, I didn't say that. The Mark of YHWH are the 10 commandments of Exodus 20:3-17. The Mark of the Beast are the false man-made 10 commandments. Go back and carefully re-read my previous post.)
ok, makes sense.
You said:
((note reversal here) that's at tat i'd be proud to have.
I don't understand what you're saying.)
i stated earlier that i wouldn't get so much as a tattoo. when you were talking about the 10 commandments i changed my stance. i would be willing to get a tattoo of the true gods law.
You said: what's a tiflet?
It's a small ribbon or cloth that was wrapped around the wrist as a reminder of YHWH's sacred Law
YHWH Bless you in your search for the TRUTH
thank you :^D