“MISERABLE SERPENT” BISHOPS JOIN WITH THOSE WHO CONDEMN MEL GIBSON’S “Passion”

Roman Catholic Faithful ^ | December 6, 2004 | James Bendell

[Wessex]

"It's the kind of rhetoric that actually harms the traditionalist movement. It's no wonder that most bishops are compelled to keep traditionalists at arms length. The style alone reveals a malice that cannot be attributed to even a shadow of authentic Catholicism."


Nothing can be achieved by being docile today. Those in authority have perfected the art of staying in power my all manner of ruses, lies and deceptions. Traditionalists must realise that any negotiation with bishops, progressive or conservative, will always be at the expense of the Catholic faith. Much better to see the new order sink deeper and deeper into the mire, choking on its humanisms, ecumenisms and depravities.

[desherwood7]

Isn't it great when God uses something to bring more people to him?

[sempertrad]

"It's the kind of rhetoric that actually harms the traditionalist movement. It's no wonder that most bishops are compelled to keep traditionalists at arms length. The style alone reveals a malice that cannot be attributed to even a shadow of authentic Catholicism."

I think that it boils down to Trads saying, "enough is enough." Many Trads have expressed respectful concern in writting to members of the hierarchy about the things listed in Bendell's letter, only to receive a false sense of assurance that great pains are being taken to correct something, getting the the classic, "I feel your pain", or sometimes left completely ignored.

For better or for worse, it sometimes takes using strong words to get others to take notice and take action if past respectful attempts have been rebuffed. You see "malice" in the letter, and I see a guy who is justifiably fed up. And I don't see anything unCatholic about expressing outrage over scandal.

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "I'm hoping that with all the strong Marian imagery in the movie, many non-apostolic Christians will come to believe all that the Church has traditionally taught about the Blessed Virgin Mary."

Already happening and from what I can remember it began before the movie was in theaters. Earlier in the year I was at the Catholic Books store at the other end of town and the clerk was telling us how a few weeks prior about a dozen or so Baptist (yes that is right Baptist) were in the store buying rosaries and learning how to pray it properly.

By the way does anyone know who these Bishops are, and what diocese they serve. I know they are not SSPX but I do not recognize any of the names?

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "It's the kind of rhetoric that actually harms the traditionalist movement. It's no wonder that most bishops are compelled to keep traditionalists at arms length. The style alone reveals a malice that cannot be attributed to even a shadow of authentic Catholicism."

By this remark alone I must wonder if you have ever read the Gospels. I highly recommend them if you have not. You see Jesus uses some very harsh words toward Priests, Scribes and Pharisees, to their face no less. He called one woman a dog after refusing to even talk to her and all she was doing was asking for His help. He even called Peter "Satan", now that is what I call harsh. It is even a form of malice I dare say, but malice toward evil, sin, and pride.

Check them out they go by the titles of The Gospel According to Saint Matthew, The Gospel According to Saint Mark, The Gospel According to Saint Luke and The Gospel According to Saint John.

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "Have you heard of Pope Leo XII's vision, that the devil would be given 100 years to destroy the Church? It's over, by the way."

I do not think it is over. I have reason to suspect the 100 years began January 1933.

[AAABEST]

Bump

[Savonarola]

Rogator has it right. In fact, the best you can say of the bishops is that (with exceptions) they are an embarassment to Christ's holy Church (as demonstrated for all on EWTN in the recent meeting); at worst, some are apparently criminals.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

I have reason to suspect the 100 years began January 1933.

What makes you believe in this date?

[kstewskis]

I do not think it is over. I have reason to suspect the 100 years began January 1933.

Does this have anything to do with when they suspected communists entering the priesthood?

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

The communists entered well before 1933. Pius X purged the hierarchy as best he could and that was at the beginning of the 20th century.

Mark was reading the Book of Destiny a while back. I was wondering if something was in the book which led him to believe that date.

[dangus]

>> Generally, we in the laity read your prodigious output of wordy, useless position statements and constant “pastoral” bloviating with a mixture of boredom and mild irritation. Occasionally, however, the U.S. Bishops come out with something that is so outrageous, so offensive, so truly malignant, that the laity cannot remain mute. And so it is with this, your latest piece of ecclesiastical drivel. <<

ROTFL! Winning friends, I see.
(I don't say that to mock the letter; I wholeheartedly. The wording just breaks me up!!!)

[saradippity]

My mother would have said that was when Roosevelt took office and this country started a steep downhill decline. I don't know if that is when he took office but my mother blamed him for everything bad that has happened since.

[Mark in the Old South]

Early January 1933 a group of reactionaries, bankers, junkers etc persuaded Pres. Von Heidelberg to name Hitler Chancellor of Germany.

It is my theory the devil can win the battle (or should I say he thinks he can win) by destroying one of two groups. I believe both will play a critical part in the final battle. The two groups are the Jews (the real ones not the JINO's), the other is of course the Catholic Church (the real ones not the CINO's)

I think nothing makes him happier than those two beating up on each other. Now don't get me wrong I believe the Jews need to convert but I do not believe that will happen until it is time.

Hitler tried and failed to knock off the Jews and failed. He has been undermining their faith just as he is doing in the Catholic faith. He will try again and this time he will try to kill off the Catholics as well, he will have help from within the Church I fear.

There is more to this but I need to work on the theory. I will let you know.

By the way it is other reasons why I came up with this date. I think 1 January 2033 will be a day that will be very memorable in the future. I went back from this date to find the beginning of Pope Leo XIII's vision. It turns out January 1933 fits very well with my opinion about events.