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Will He Find Faith... in the third millennium?
The Remnant ^ | 11/13/99 | Solange Strong Hertz

Posted on 12/02/2004 7:22:50 PM PST by Land of the Irish

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1 posted on 12/02/2004 7:22:51 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Andrew65; AniGrrl; apologia_pro_vita_sua; attagirl; BearWash; ...

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2 posted on 12/02/2004 7:24:42 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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"now it is in the process of manufacturing one for itself, an ecumenical religion whose worship is directed to a vague, all-purpose "god" who so far remains rigorously undefined so as to be acceptable to all, even to the members of the One, Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. The rebellion is therefore not against religion or deity as such, but specifically against the God who told us exactly who He is -- the one almighty Blessed Trinity of Father, Son and Holy Ghost, Who out of pure love, created us out of nothing and sent His beloved Son to redeem us and rule over us both here and hereafter as Christ the Universal King."

Novus ordinarians are unlikely to ever hear stuff like this - not even on EWTN.


3 posted on 12/02/2004 8:02:05 PM PST by AskStPhilomena
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To: Land of the Irish
Solange Hertz sez "this" and she sez "that" - but there are times when what she sez - she provides no evidence.

For example: She in her "Lucifer's Primacy" (now published by "The REMNANT"; previously published by "Veritas" and prior to that, I suspect, by "Big Rock Papers" in the 1970's), she quotes from an alleged "prophecy" by the 5th Century St Nilus that "Antichrist... would 'produce miracles and fantastic signs. He will also give depraved wisdom to an unfortunate man so that he will discover a way by which one man can carry on a conversation with another from one end of the earth to the other. At the same time men will also fly through the air like birds and descend to the bottom of the sea like fish...'" etc.

Now, the same alleged "prophecy" is carried in many deluded websites, commencing (with what Hertz omitted!) "After the year 1900, towards the middle of the twentieth century..."

That the alleged "prophecy" may be deduced from several facts:

The "old" Catholic Encyclopedia entry on St Nilus quotes his works and mentions that some works attributed to him are spurious.

NONE of the websites carrying his alleged "prophecy" (nor Solenge Hertz) give the name of an original document from St Nilus for verification!

At the time of St Nilus (d. 430) there were NO CALENDARS which counted the years from Anno Domine. It was not until about 100 years AFTER the death of St Nilus that Dionysius Exiguus (see entry in the old Catholic Encyclopedia) "introduced the use of the Christian era according to which dates are reckoned from the Incarnation." Furthermore, the AD Calendar didn't really catch on until the time of St Bede (c. 751) So! The concept of St Nilus talking about the year 1900 or the 20th Century is laughable!

On the other hand, the Orthodox (generally) attribute a prophecy (which mentions the year 1917) but which is quite different to the Hertz/Apparitionist/Schismatic version. They attribute a "prophecy" to St Nilus the Myrrhstreamer (or Myrrhgusher) (d.1651) who post-humously gave a "prophecy" to another monk at Mt Athos in 1817.

However, the Orthodox apply that "prophecy" to the post 1917 Bolshevik Russian scene.

In any event - nothing should be taken as "gospel" unless it is approved by the Church - and even the, any Private Revelation is not bound to be believed by any of then Faithful.

4 posted on 12/02/2004 8:09:22 PM PST by Sean O L
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You don't believe this stuff, do you?

water, the primordial substance on which both natural and supernatural life depend, is being superseded by electricity ... Divinely created natural substances like wood, stone, fibers and leathers are giving way increasingly to artificially produced plastics of every description.

LOL! How horrifying - electricity and plastic.

the rise of a global world government which takes its authority not from heaven above, but from man below.  Its first visible manifestation was the United States of  America, the first human government constituted autonomously under no God, but only by the authority of "We the people."

But if by this name ["Americanism"] are to be understood certain endowments of mind which belong to the American people, just as other characteristics belong to various other nations, and if, moreover, by it is designated your political condition and the laws and customs by which you are governed, there is no reason to take exception to the name. (Leo XIII, Testem benevolentiae)

I'll take Leo XIII over Solange Hertz any day, thanks.

5 posted on 12/02/2004 8:10:36 PM PST by gbcdoj ("I acknowledge everyone who is united with the See of Peter" - St. Jerome)
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the rise of a global world government which takes its authority not from heaven above, but from man below.

". . . you [the United Nations] organize brotherly collaboration among peoples. In this way a system of solidarity is set up, so that lofty civilized aims may win the orderly and unanimous support of all the family of peoples for the common good and the good of each individual. This aspect of the United Nations is the most beautiful; it is its most truly human aspect; it is the ideal of which mankind dreams on its pilgrimage through time; it is the world's greatest hope...."

(Paul VI, Speech to the United Nations, October 4, 1965.)

6 posted on 12/02/2004 8:34:30 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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November 1979, Volume II, Number 11

On Human Society
Edited by Dr. Mary Buckalew

 

The Conciliar Church Speaks:

"You [United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization —UNESCO] are a hope for peace in the future of mankind and civilization. This is said in the charter setting up your Organization. You are sent forward, as harbingers of peace, into future history. You make of education, science and culture powerful and wonderful factors for the universal spiritual fusion of peoples. Politics, which you leave to other bodies to promote, especially the United Nations Organization, from which you take inspiration and strength, will succeed, we trust, in establishing a peaceful cohesion, an organic juridical and economic relationship, a balanced and ordered harmony between the Nations; yes, but you work to form a communion, you strive for the brotherhood of the peoples of the earth. You seek to give mankind a common thought; you promote a uniform sociology of culture; you render possible an identical civil language among men . . . you carry out a work of silent but prodigious mobilization of minds, which on the contrary seem by the very progress of civilization to be arming themselves psychologically and technically for a terrible and apocalyptic war, which should never happen, but, alas becomes still possible and horribly easier. For your part you dissipate the nightmare of such a deplorable and unthinkable fate. You make once more serene the horizon of future history; today you restore Peace once more to the world, making it safe for tomorrow. Is there anything at all more deserving among the community of the Peoples?"

(Paul VI, Discourse on awarding the John XXIII International Peace Prize to UNESCO, L'Osservatore Romano, 12 December 1974.)

 

The Catholic Church Teaches:

''The same applies to the nation of Fraternity which they [the Sillonists] found on the love of common interest or, beyond all philosophies and religions, on the mere notion of humanity, thus embracing with an equal love and tolerance all human beings and their miseries, whether these are intellectual, moral, or physical and temporal. But Catholic doctrine tells us that the primary duty of charity does not lie in the toleration of false ideas, however sincere they may be, nor in theoretical or practical indifference towards the errors and vices in which we see our brethren plunged, but in zeal for their intellectual and moral improvement as well as their material well-being. Catholic doctrine further tells us that love for our neighbor flows from our love for God, Who is Father to all, and goal of the whole human family; and in Jesus Christ whose members we are, to the point that in doing good to others we are doing good to Jesus Christ Himself. Any other kind of love is sheer illusion, sterile and fleeting.

If, as We desire with all Our heart, the highest possible peak of well being for society and its members is to be attained through fraternity or, as it is also called, universal solidarity, all minds must be united in the knowledge of Truth, all wills united in morality, and all hearts in the love of God and His Son Jesus Christ. But this union is attainable only by Catholic charity ....

. . .there is no true civilization without a moral civilization, and no true moral civilization without the true religion; it is a proven truth, a historical fact."

(St. Pius X, Notre Charge Apostolique, 25 August 1910, °24, °36.)
   

" 'The Church is the new People of God destined to bring about his kingdom on earth'....

This overflowing concept of human society, made up of citizens who are all equal, organized by authoritative and hierarchical ministries, at once earthly and heavenly, animated by the Holy Spirit, destined to spread all over the earth . . ., must constitute the object of our ardent and realistic thought, if we wish to overcome in the first place the scepticism with which the profane mentality is usually imbued, and also if we wish to walk in this life as 'children of light' (Eph. 5, 8). The profane mentality, in itself, knows nothing of the true and supreme destiny of mankind, and only catches a glimpse here and there, emanating from natural experience, of the superlative goals to which civilization is progressing: unity, brotherhood, justice, domination over creation, peace."

(Paul VI, General Audience 5 September 1973, L'Osservatore Romano,
13 September 1973.)

"Finally, He [Jesus Christ] did not announce for future society the reign of an ideal happiness from which suffering would be banished; but, by His lessons and by His example, He traced the path of the happiness which is possible on earth and of perfect happiness in heaven: the royal way of the Cross. These are teachings that it would be wrong to apply only to one's personal life in order to win eternal salvation; these are eminently social teachings, and they show in Our Lord Jesus Christ something quite different from an inconsistent and impotent humanitarianism."

(St. Pius X, Notre Charge Apostolique, °42.)

   

". . .we must not strive towards the unrealistic dream of ... a society of the medieval type, stable and disciplined by one religious ideology alone ,,,,"

(Paul VI, General Audience 21 November 1973, L'Osseruatore Romano,
29 November 1973.)

 

". . . you [the United Nations] organize brotherly collaboration among peoples. In this way a system of solidarity is set up, so that lofty civilized aims may win the orderly and unanimous support of all the family of peoples for the common good and the good of each individual. This aspect of the United Nations is the most beautiful; it is its most truly human aspect; it is the ideal of which mankind dreams on its pilgrimage through time; it is the world's greatest hope...."

(Paul VI, Speech to the United Nations, October 4, 1965.)

". . . they dream of changing its [human society's] natural and traditional foundations; they dream of a Future City built on different principles, and they dare to proclaim these more fruitful and more beneficial than the principles wupon which the present Christian City rests.

No, Venerable Brethren, We must repeat with the utmost energy in these times of social and intellectual anarchy when everyone takes it upon himself to teach as a teacher and law-maker—the City cannot be built otherwise than as God has built it; society cannot be set up unless the Church lays the foundations and supervises the work; no, civilization is not something yet to be found, nor is the New City to be built on hazy notions; it has been in existence and still is: it is the Christian civilization, it is the Catholic City."

(St. Pius X, Notre Charge Apostolique, °10-°11.)

 

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7 posted on 12/02/2004 8:36:01 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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To: Land of the Irish

Do you believe that plastic, electricity, and the US Constitution are evil?


8 posted on 12/02/2004 8:54:35 PM PST by gbcdoj ("I acknowledge everyone who is united with the See of Peter" - St. Jerome)
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No, no, and yes.


9 posted on 12/02/2004 8:56:17 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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yes

How do you reconcile this with the words of Leo XIII?

if, moreover, by it is designated your political condition and the laws and customs by which you are governed, there is no reason to take exception to the name ["Americanism"].

10 posted on 12/02/2004 8:59:19 PM PST by gbcdoj ("I acknowledge everyone who is united with the See of Peter" - St. Jerome)
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"Americanism", at that time, did not allow murder of the unborn by invoking Constitutional rights of the Mother and not the child.

"Americansism", at that time, did not allow sodomy by invoking one's "right to privacy" now accorded by the Constitution.


11 posted on 12/02/2004 9:06:03 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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To: Land of the Irish

There is no constitutional right to sodomy or murder.


12 posted on 12/02/2004 9:20:17 PM PST by gbcdoj ("I acknowledge everyone who is united with the See of Peter" - St. Jerome)
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There is in the U.S.

Ask Planned Parenthood and the US Supreme Court.

13 posted on 12/02/2004 9:23:36 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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Saying that there's a constitutional right to sodomy based on the Supreme Court is like using Luther's Works to say that the Bible teaches salvation by faith alone.
14 posted on 12/02/2004 9:26:43 PM PST by gbcdoj ("I acknowledge everyone who is united with the See of Peter" - St. Jerome)
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To: Land of the Irish

Solange Hertz is the Michael Savage of Roman Catholicism.


15 posted on 12/02/2004 9:36:57 PM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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Supreme Court strikes down Texas sodomy law

Legal analysts said the ruling enshrines for the first time a broad constitutional right to sexual privacy, and its impact would reach beyond Texas and 12 other states with similar sodomy laws applied against the gay and lesbian community, and into mainstream America.

16 posted on 12/02/2004 9:38:47 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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Plop!

17 posted on 12/02/2004 9:42:14 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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PUAR.


18 posted on 12/02/2004 9:45:31 PM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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Squawk!!


19 posted on 12/02/2004 9:51:50 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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Could you translate my tagline? I'd hate to think it says, "Close cover before striking," or something else dumb.

Thanks for your help!


20 posted on 12/03/2004 4:53:53 AM PST by Tax-chick (Benedicere cor! Quomodo cogis comas tuas sic videri?)
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