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Vanity: Question about Book of Job

Posted on 11/22/2004 11:12:20 AM PST by stuartcr

I read the Book of Job this weekend, and I have a question regarding the reasoning behind Job's trials. I believe that God is all-powerful and all-knowing, which includes knowing what we are going to do. Going on this premise, my question is why did God, knowing the outcome, subject Job to all that he went through? Why did He allow satan to do the things he did to Job? The only thing I can think of, was to prove a point to Job?


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To: Miztiki

Wouldn't God know what satan was going to do also?


41 posted on 11/22/2004 11:47:30 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr
A lot of that sounds like what the Buddhists say.

There's an old Buddhist saying:

"A broken clock is right twice a day."

Well maybe its not Buddhist. I have no idea where it came from.

Do the Buddhists accept "Job" as the inspired word of God?

42 posted on 11/22/2004 11:47:58 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: stuartcr; xzins; Revelation 911; Corin Stormhands

Knowing something and overtly causing it are two different things.


43 posted on 11/22/2004 11:48:10 AM PST by UsnDadof8
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To: stuartcr



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Job acted of his own free will.
God only knew Job was a GOOD man.
God was betting on him to act accordingly
which he did.


44 posted on 11/22/2004 11:48:40 AM PST by onyx
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To: Red Badger

So the outcome is known...why all the pain and misery in the meantime?


45 posted on 11/22/2004 11:49:06 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr
So the outcome is known...why all the pain and misery in the meantime?

Because Job was part of a lesson plan...

46 posted on 11/22/2004 11:50:00 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (01010010 01001111 01010100 01000110 01001100)
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To: Pete

So we really don't have anything to worry about.


47 posted on 11/22/2004 11:51:08 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr

Wellll....I don't know if it's a pep talk. It's giving us an example of inner-spiritual strength, ...Even his own compadres didn't understand the truth meaning of "faith in God". Faith is a gift from God. We have to learn to nurture it and keep it growing. If we let it stagnate, our spirituality will weaken, and then we will be filled with doubts. (I believe there are few men who are like Job)


48 posted on 11/22/2004 11:51:20 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: stuartcr
Here is an article by John Piper on Job that may be helpful. Job: Reverent in Suffering.
49 posted on 11/22/2004 11:51:31 AM PST by Pete
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To: stuartcr
So we really don't have anything to worry about.

That depends - are you a Baptist? If not... < shudder >

(j/k)

50 posted on 11/22/2004 11:52:46 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (01010010 01001111 01010100 01000110 01001100)
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To: Judith Anne

Thanks, that was a very nice reply.


51 posted on 11/22/2004 11:52:57 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr

Even the demons know the ultimate outcome and are determined to be as much a force in dragging down as many of the human race as possible before then. Sorta like cosmic SCHADENFREUDE......


52 posted on 11/22/2004 11:53:25 AM PST by Red Badger (If the Red States are JESUSLAND, then the Blue States are SATANLAND......)
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To: onyx

My dad teaches Sunday school to retired men..and they studied the book of Job for almost a year.. (I think it was about that long) I have to give him (and God of course) credit for explaining it to me in a shortened easy to understand version. :)


53 posted on 11/22/2004 11:54:07 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: P-Marlowe

Post to read later.


54 posted on 11/22/2004 11:54:18 AM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~


That's really neat about your dad.
Bless him.
I am depending on my memory from long ago...
age 16 in fact.


55 posted on 11/22/2004 11:55:33 AM PST by onyx
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To: Cinnamon Girl

What does it matter, if the outcome is already known? It just means that everthing happens the way it's supposed to.


56 posted on 11/22/2004 11:55:58 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr
So we really don't have anything to worry about.

Those who humble themselves before God, admit their sin and sincerely repent of it, recognize their need of a Savior, accept Jesus Christ as that Savior and thank God for this free gift have absolutely nothing to worry about.

Those who have not done this definitely have something to worry about - the just wrath of a righteous God.

57 posted on 11/22/2004 11:56:43 AM PST by Pete
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

So why does it matter if people believe differently?


58 posted on 11/22/2004 11:58:08 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Why would He create something that bothered Him...unless it really doesn't?


59 posted on 11/22/2004 11:59:38 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: P-Marlowe

I don't know, but they do have their thoughts on causation.


60 posted on 11/22/2004 12:00:55 PM PST by stuartcr
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