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To: infidel29
Henry's philandering had little to do with the Protestant reformation. It would have come eventually if Spain had defeated England and driven its Empire from the earth.

It would have come if the Roman Catholic Church had conquered Africa first and left Europe for later.

It came because the Bible was printed and people read the truth for a change instead of the inventions of the Popes and their Cardinals.

As to leaving some books out. Absolutely meaningless. I need little else other than Christ's conversation with Nicodemus to 'get' Christianity. At most I need a record that he lived, He quoted scripture, He died on a cross and claimed it was done as payment for out sins, He rose again and was beheld by many. No, I don't really need that last part. It just helps.

Your argument about a few arcane texts being left out of the bible and whether or not it matters is thinking like a Roman Catholic. All tied up in traditions and arguments while denying the simple truths of the Word.

What do the Apocrypha add to Jesus' life and instructions? What do they take away?
84 posted on 11/21/2004 5:34:23 PM PST by mercy
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To: mercy
Henry was the root, not the reform. The books being removed only shows that the reform was based on secular ideas and not necessarily directly from God. We could go back and forth ad infinitum, we`ll never see each others` point of view. I don`t wish to argue over something that is really beyond any of us to truly understand. We think we know, we believe as we will and ultimately think the rest of the world is wrong.

That is precisely what we as a nation are fighting against. Radical Muslims are killing those who believe in Christ world wide and we as Christians still argue that my bible is thicker than yours and tradition doesn`t always equal God`s will. It`s silly. God is still God, Christ is still Christ, and we are all his people. Heaven is the ultimate goal and it shouldn`t matter if one takes the freeway and one takes the highway, live a good and wholesome life, let God decide when we get there.

85 posted on 11/21/2004 5:49:04 PM PST by infidel29 (America is GREAT because she is GOOD, the moment she ceases to be GOOD, she ceases to be GREAT - B.F)
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To: mercy

>>What do the Apocrypha add to Jesus' life and instructions? What do they take away?

You'll find that much of the theology of the ressurection is contained in the so called "apocrypha"


109 posted on 11/21/2004 7:43:06 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: mercy

Correction:

>>What do the Apocrypha add to Jesus' life and instructions? What do they take away?

You'll find that much of the theology of the ressurection *of the dead* is contained in the so called "apocrypha"


110 posted on 11/21/2004 7:43:51 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: mercy

Didnt he marry a spaniard? Funny, the Popes and Cardinals didnt oppose the publishing of good Bibles (as cited in the Council of trent) and that the first Bible Printed (by Gutenberg) was a CATHOLIC Bible. And about leaving books out: Luther was a bitter old constipated man who thought about getting rid of St. James "straw" epistle because it didn't conform to his religious believes.


150 posted on 11/22/2004 5:02:37 AM PST by CouncilofTrent (Quo Primum...)
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