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To: mercy
Henry was the root, not the reform. The books being removed only shows that the reform was based on secular ideas and not necessarily directly from God. We could go back and forth ad infinitum, we`ll never see each others` point of view. I don`t wish to argue over something that is really beyond any of us to truly understand. We think we know, we believe as we will and ultimately think the rest of the world is wrong.

That is precisely what we as a nation are fighting against. Radical Muslims are killing those who believe in Christ world wide and we as Christians still argue that my bible is thicker than yours and tradition doesn`t always equal God`s will. It`s silly. God is still God, Christ is still Christ, and we are all his people. Heaven is the ultimate goal and it shouldn`t matter if one takes the freeway and one takes the highway, live a good and wholesome life, let God decide when we get there.

85 posted on 11/21/2004 5:49:04 PM PST by infidel29 (America is GREAT because she is GOOD, the moment she ceases to be GOOD, she ceases to be GREAT - B.F)
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To: infidel29
Henry was the root, not the reform.

King Henry wasn't really a protestant (in doctrinal terms), he enforced the Latin Mass until his death, he died believe that he was a loyal son of Mother Church. He believed that the lack of a male-heir was God's retribution for marrying his brother's wife (he was terribly superstitious); he applied for an annulment, but the Pope was being held hostage by the Emperor (Catherine of Aragon's nephew) who forced the Pope to decline (such requests were usually granted on the most flimsy of bases, in other circumstances it would have been processed as a matter of course). This lead to the declaration that the Church of England was not subject to the Pope. Everything else stayed firm until Edward VI, it was then reversed by Mary, and finally the Anglican via media was developed by Queen Elizabeth I (who would probably have accepted a union with Rome, but was vexed that the Pope didn't invite the English Bishops to Trent, and even more so when the Pope attempted to depose her).
152 posted on 11/22/2004 5:06:01 AM PST by tjwmason ("The English, the English, the English are best; I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest")
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