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Scandalous Ecumenism with Hinduism
SSPX Asia ^ | Dec 2003 | Lawrence D'Souza

Posted on 11/18/2004 10:29:48 AM PST by Land of the Irish

"There will come a time when they will not endure sound doctrine but having itching ears, will heap up to themselves teachers according to their own lusts, and they will turn away their hearing from the truth and turn aside rather to fables" (2 Tim 4,1-5)

How true! We find this situation prophesied by St. Paul so rampant in the Conciliar Church today. The men of the Church and not the Church (which is indefectible), the liberal popes and peritis of Vatican II have tried to establish the forbidden harmony between Christ and Belial. St. Paul once again in 2 Cor 6,15-16 warns us against such an adulterous alliance. He says "What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what part has the believer with the unbeliever. And what agreement has the temple of God with the idols?" And yet, that is precisely what Conciliar and post-Conciliar reforms have established — by consecrating Ecumenism, Religious Liberty, Inter-religious dialogue and Inculturation. These are the false gods, the golden calves once again erected by the High Priests, as Aaron did. I shall expose this scandalous and abominable Ecumenism with Hinduism in 2 parts: 1) Theory, 2) Practice.

Hindu Christian: From Daily News, Nov. 11, 1996 click to enlarge to legible size (170K)

1. Theory

The Church in India speaks of a "Contextualised Theology", "Theology at the grassroots" that reflects the religious, cultural, socio-economic-politico reality of the country. The foundation of such a demand for indigenous theology is what the modernists call "Incarnational, Communitarian and Dialogical Spirituality" (big words devoid of any content!!!) which in turn supports itself on Gaudium et Spes (G.S.), 1. - "the joy and hope, the grief and anguish of the men of our time....." As was reaffirmed in post-synodal exhortation of Pope John Paul II "Ecclesia in Asia" (E.A.S.): "G.S.I captured the shift towards an 'incarnational spirituality' that translated into action the commitment of the Church to an involvement in the transformation of the world." Hence, we see that the Church in India no more speaks of being the Church Universal, but a' local Church'' having its own contextual theology and mission".

I quote here a statement issued by the Catholic Priests Conference of India (CPCI) 1996.

No.l - "The struggle for livelihood and Justice in our Indian Subcontinent have taken the form of political demands for the recognition of the autonomy of the different Socio-Cultural, linguistic and ethnic identities. The tragic failure of the Church to make an evangelical response to the Indian crisis is the background of the CPCI's reflection on the question of 'Rites'. We have tried to evolve a vision of a new model for different Rites in India....."

No.6 - "But unfortunately the principles of diversity and autonomy are more violated than respected. Only the Oriental Rites have enjoyed autonomy to some extent, still very much controlled by Rome. The issues of these individual Churches are often manipulated by the Vatican bureaucracy downplaying the resources of the 'Local Church'. The Latin Church in India could not even get an Indianised Eucharistic prayer approved by Rome, even though the Bishops overwhelmingly voted for it...."

No.21 - "Missionary work is still understood as the transporting of & Ritual Church to new territories - This is no better than a religious colonisation crushing the rich religious and cultural heritage of the local people...."

No.23 - "The CPCI approves that missionary activity should result in the founding of a new church. The missionaries will have to deculturise and insert themselves into the religions, cultures and life of the people of the new area, evolving a new local Church from the local spiritual resources i.e. local religions, value systems, cultural expressions and social struggles. If needed, the evangelised people may draw from the spiritual resources of other religious traditions. It will be a People's Church."

No.24 - "The emerging local Church will be independent of the Mother Church of the missionaries. Leadership in these Churches will be from the local Christian — Contextual!'

No.30 - "The following steps may be implemented:

a. Priests should be able to celebrate the divine liturgy in any Rite according to the needs of the people. b. Each Church should take care to give up customs and practices, which are not relevant and meaningful today in the local context. c. Each Church/Rite has to adapt itself to the culture, religion and social life of the people of the region. d. The Dalit Leaders have to take the lead in evolving a dalit Church and Rite (Tribal Church). e. Women's participation should be ensured in the Decision-making, administration and ministry at different levels in all the existing churches... (Document "Towards Authentic Indian Churches" CPCI - 6/11/1996)

Pope John Paul II in Ecclesia in Asia says: "that the Church besides being a Sacrament of the inner union of the 'human person' with God, is also the Sacrament of the unity of human race." (No.24) And also: "The Kingdom of God comes to a people who are profoundly linked to a culture and the building up of the kingdom cannot avoid borrowing elements from human cultures. In the process of encountering the world's cultures, the Church not only transmits her truths and values, but she also takes from the various cultures the positive elements already found in them...." (No.21)

I have quoted various important sources and documents that describe elaborately and clearly the rationale behind the frenzied ecumenism pushed forward by the mod­ernists. I shall now enlist the concrete steps taken up to implement the above stated alliance between Christ and Belial.

2. In Practice

In order to execute the above principles of Ecumenism, an attitudinal change is proposed in order to shed away any trace of triumphalism or superiority of Catholic spirit vis-a-vis other religions. Following are the steps taken:-

• Adopting Indian religious values and customs into church practices as well as participating actively and freely in Hindu festivals.

• Encourage the Small 'Christian' Communities (SCC) to gradually launch into and foster Small 'Human' Communities to include all religions in the Church.

• Open Archdiocesan Ashram (a Hindu-styled hermitage) to participate in Indian forms of prayer, liturgical worship and community, thereby to have a "God-experience" in Indian setting.

• Promote Inter-religious Dialogue in theology and spirituality.

• Collaboration with people of other faiths in matters concerning Justice.

• Fostering practices such as Yoga, Vipasannna, Transcendental Meditation, Reiki, Pranic healing to further one's health of mind and body and recite Christian mantras.

• Make a study of the 'seeds of the Word' present in non-Christian scriptures and in the lives of Our Indian Sages such as Tukaram, Tulsidas, Surdas, etc.

Here I shall recall the "JesuitAgenda" as unanimously arrived at by their Society (Society of Jesus), thus inventing an "Indian Mission Command"—voiced out by the FABC (Federation of Asian Bishops Conference). It says-

"Today the Lord would no more give a triumphalistic command as He gave in Matt. 28:19-20 but He would say this 'Share the Good news in continuous, loving and humble dialogue with India's poor, with its local culture and religious traditions; live like Me in the midst of your neighbours of other faiths, so that you in turn might achieve mutual enrichment and do my deeds by the power of my graces.' "

Hence, no more conversions, no more baptisms and so, all are saved. No condemnations!!!

This revolution of Inculturation or Hinduisation was begun intensely in the 1970's by a Jesuit priest, Fr. Amalorpavadas, the younger brother of Cardinal Lourduswamy of the Vatican Congregation for Promotion of Inter-Religious Dialogue. He built a centre for Inculturation known as NBCLC (National Biblical Catechetical and Liturgical Centre) at Bangalore, modeled in the form of a temple with symbols of all religions engraved on the door of the temple. It is here that lay people even today are taken, even sponsored by dioceses and parishes, to be "brainwashed" into paganisation by drinking the poison of the "Indian Rite Mass" fabricated by Fr. Amalorpavadas, who himself died a most cruel death being crushed under a truck that left him "faceless" in his death. The Indian Rite Mass is a further perversion of the already "abomination of desolation" which is the Novus Ordo Missae of Paul VI. Fr. Amalorpavadas is the first to construct the 'Indian Rite' incorporating in it all the Brahminical rituals of Hinduism with the chanting of Vedic and Upanishadic mantras. It includes readings taken from the Hindu scriptures such as the Bhagavad Gita. The words of consecration keep evolving and changing as per the "Creativity" of the celebrant. The mass is said squatting on the ground, on a little table surrounded by small lamps. The priestly vestments were completely cast away, the celebrant being in his civil clothes wears a saffron shawl with the character OM in its centre. All the mantras and prayers in this abominable mass begin with 'OM'. (I have explained its perverse significance in "Hinduism at a glance") 'Tilak' is applied on the foreheads of priests and people. Aarti (an act of worship performed by moving in a circular fashion a plate with incense-sticks) is done with a bronze pot, leaves and coconut (it symbolises the 3 deities Shiva, Ganesh and Parvati — the fertility cult of the Hindus). The reason given is that it is a sign of welcome. The Mantras invoking Visnu and Shiva are attributed, of course falsely to Our Lord Jesus Christ. The 'Indian Rite' yet stands unapproved by Rome and yet is widely practiced in all seminaries, convents and gradually in many parishes.

This kind of Ecumenism is slowly catching up in parishes. During parish feasts, on Sundays, masses begin with an entrance procession led by girls or women dancing Bharatnatyam to Indian classical tunes (latest news: this was done at the Papal Mass for the Beatification of Mother Teresa). Bhajans (poetical songs taken from Mirabai) and Aarti songs of the Hindus are sung to the Blessed Sacrament. In one of the parishes in Bombay, during Easter, the Liturgical Committee used cow's urine for the 'Asperges' (as used by the Hindus for purificatory rites).

Seminarians are sent to Hindu Christian Ashrams where they live-in, imbibing in themselves the elements of Indian worship and meditations. They are also taken for periodical 'Temple-visits' by their superiors thus breaking off all resistance by pressure-tactics such as group activity. The whole group of seminarians going to the temples and joining in singing Kirtans and Bhajans (Hindu devotional songs) as well as participating in the worship offered to the idols. I was questioned and interrogated by all staff members of the seminary in turn for having refused to even enter a temple. This went on for a week. I was persecuted for not being "open-minded". One of the years, along with my class of seminarians, I was sent for a Vipasanna Retreat conducted by a Jesuit priest, Fr. Joseph Pitekar of Nashik diocese, who in the very first conference asked all of us to remove any sacramentals, if we had some, any scapular, rosary, etc. — the reason given was to avoid distraction. The retreat began in the chapel by reciting Mantras in praise of the Hindu Triad—Brahma, Visnu and Shiva. Centering prayer was combined with Vipasanna-Buddhist meditation centered on the 'Self'. The masses celebrated by this Jesuit were all "On the spot evolved", so also the formula of consecration interspersed with mantras from the Vedas - SACRILEGEOUS INDEED!

The Divine office in the seminary was frequently replaced by "Sandhyavandana" — a Brahminical practice of worshipping the Sun-God. It included singing Hindu Bhajans, reading scriptures from other religions, such as Gita, Koran, sayings of Hindu saints followed by Parallel themes "read into" the Holy Bible. This was to show homogeneity between the Bible and other religions. Prasada (food of sweet items offered to the idols) was offered to the Blessed Sacrament such as done in the temples. Seminarians were encouraged to join the Hindus in their festivals of Ganpati and a proposal was being executed to actively participate in the processions of Ganesh-Visarjan (drowning of Ganpati idols). Many seminarians joined in the 9-day playing of "Raas Lila" - Dancing around the idol of Durga with sticks in hand. Many priests and nuns giving up Breviaries and Rosary are taking up to Vipasanna and Yogic meditations under the guise of being simple and practical.

Many priests, seminarians and nuns, as well as a great number of novices nowadays attend the 10-Day Vipasana Meditations at a Vipasana Centre, at Igatpuri, on the outskirts of Bombay. This Centre is run by Mr. Goenka, a Buddhist. For 10 days, they are without any sacramentals (if they have been wearing any) or sacraments. All those among the clergy and religious, after spending the 10 days at this Centre, return back godless, proud (under the disguise of being enlightened) and stoic.

A French Jesuit priest, Fr. Le Saux (now Swami Shilananda) has built a church resembling a temple at Sinnar, in Nashik, in which he has made a seemingly tabernacle to the form of Shivalingam (sexual organ of Shiva) with a serpent on top, and below, the female sexual organ, that is the fertility cult of the Hindus. He places the Blessed Sacrament inside the Shivalingam. He is dressed in saffron robes like an Indian sage. He is looked up to as a model of an Indian priest.

These and many others are the 'fables' to which the Conciliar Church has 'turned aside' to, as prophesised by St. Paul. These are the 'golden calves' erected today by the clergy everywhere. We know what happened to the Israelites and to their leaders who led them into rivalry against God and his Commandments... What judgment has God to mete out today for this new rivalry of Ecumenism??

Ave Maria


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic
KEYWORDS: catholic; ecumenism; hindu
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To: Land of the Irish

Provide please.


21 posted on 11/18/2004 6:26:37 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam

Find it yourself. I'm feeding you a long rope. I also have quotes and links of a Pope and a Vatican Cardinal mentioning "conciliar".


22 posted on 11/18/2004 6:46:50 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish
Nice way to go off topic, LOTI. The Society professes to be subject to the Pope and to accept all the good things he teaches; they have nothing to gain by opposing everything he does.

How many bishops has this Pope reprimanded for their sinful embracement of Modernism

Bp. Jacques Gaillot and Abp. Raymond Hunthausen, to name two.

How many bishops has this Pope declared "latae sententiae" excommunicated for their adherence to the Traditions of the Catholic Church?

I had no idea that schism was "adherence to the Traditions of the Catholic Church". Or are you thinking of a different six bishops? Please point out where the Pope excommunicates them for "adherence to the Traditions of the Catholic Church".

23 posted on 11/18/2004 6:54:37 PM PST by gbcdoj ("I acknowledge everyone who is united with the See of Peter" - St. Jerome)
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To: gbcdoj

Nice try. Where's the punishment?

Hunthausen remained bishop of Seattle until he retired in 1991.

Bishop Jacques Jean Edmond Georges Gaillot
Titular Bishop of Parthenia

http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bgaillot.html




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Please contact the Bishop through the Titular See of Parthenia.

a priest for 43.67 years
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24 posted on 11/18/2004 7:59:26 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish

You said "reprimanded", not "punishment".

Why not return to the article instead of bringing this thread off topic, LOTI?


25 posted on 11/18/2004 8:09:16 PM PST by gbcdoj ("I acknowledge everyone who is united with the See of Peter" - St. Jerome)
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To: gbcdoj

You're the one who deliberately went off topic in post #11.

You stated, "Such syncretistic actions are truly horrifying." and then you lost it when you went into your "However".

Stay on topic, don't try to excuse the inexcusable.


26 posted on 11/18/2004 8:22:24 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish
You stated, "Such syncretistic actions are truly horrifying." and then you lost it when you went into your "However".

Did you read the article? It quotes Ecclesia in Asia as one of the "modernist" documents which is the "theory" for the "scandalous ecumenism" including idolatry and syncretism. You should read Ecclesia in Asia and see that the Pope goes out of his way to attack what is apparently taking place in India, repeatedly reemphasizing the necessity of Jesus and the uselessness of other religions.

27 posted on 11/18/2004 8:49:58 PM PST by gbcdoj ("I acknowledge everyone who is united with the See of Peter" - St. Jerome)
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To: gbcdoj
It quotes Ecclesia in Asia as one of the "modernist" documents which is the "theory" for the "scandalous ecumenism" including idolatry and syncretism.

Did you read about his papal mass for the canonization of Juan Diego?

28 posted on 11/18/2004 9:02:34 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: gbcdoj
I wish that the SSPX would stop unnecessarily aligning themselves against the Pope by misrepresenting his teaching - his actual words could be a powerful force in defeating the ecumenical and syncretistic heresy in Asia.

Nothing like a good laugh to lighten the load of double-speak the Vatican expects the faithful to carry in silence.

.....Ps.....You forgot your sarcasm tag.

29 posted on 11/19/2004 1:49:30 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: AskStPhilomena
"In one of the parishes in Bombay, during Easter, the Liturgical Committee used cow's urine for the 'Asperges' (as used by the Hindus for purificatory rites)."

Two words: wash and wear.
30 posted on 11/19/2004 7:22:43 AM PST by latae sententiae (sedevacantists - the headless horsemen of the apocolypse)
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