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Bishops Reject Bible Tutorial (Old Guard Strikes Again)
Washington Times ^ | 11/17/2004 | Julia Duin

Posted on 11/17/2004 11:57:27 AM PST by Pyro7480

Bishops reject Bible tutorial

By Julia Duin
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

The nation's Catholic bishops rejected a proposal yesterday to develop a pastoral statement on how Catholics should study the Bible, over objections by several bishops who said such a move will mean a public relations "disaster" for the church.

Bishops voted 137-102 at the annual business meeting of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops to send the proposal back to committee, saying they were burdened with multiple documents and expensive projects and that they had agreed Monday to reduce their workload....

Milwaukee Auxiliary Bishop Richard J. Sklba, who favored the proposal, worried that Catholics were getting too "individualistic" in their Bible studies.

"I worry a bit about an increasingly evangelical slant" among Catholics, he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; bishops; catholic; tutorial
I think Bishop Sklba is right in this. I attended several Bible studies at the Catholic chapel on the college campus I attended, and my peers were making comments that were rather un-Catholic in viewpoint.
1 posted on 11/17/2004 11:57:28 AM PST by Pyro7480
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; broadsword; NYer; Salvation; sandyeggo; american colleen; ...
Catholic ping...

The Old Guard strikes back! (cue Imperial Theme from Star Wars)

2 posted on 11/17/2004 11:59:15 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: Pyro7480

"and my peers were making comments that were rather un-Catholic in viewpoint."


Ahhhhh, maybe that is just what is needed??


3 posted on 11/17/2004 12:09:43 PM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: gobucks

At a Catholic chapel, even a liberal one? I don't think so!


4 posted on 11/17/2004 12:14:10 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: Pyro7480

Bishops' statement on Bible study sent back for review

By Patricia Zapor
Catholic News Service

WASHINGTON (CNS) -- The U.S. bishops Nov. 16 took to heart the resolve they pronounced a day earlier to control the number of projects the conference undertakes and voted to put off issuing a pastoral statement on the use of the Bible by Catholics.

The proposed pastoral message would include a theological overview of Catholic teachings on the Bible. It would use research by the Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate based at Georgetown University about Catholics and the Bible as the basis for instruction on teaching about it and studying it.

The recommendation for the statement came from a task force appointed in August 2003 to review the findings of the CARA study, which was commissioned by the bishops' conference. The task force comprised of five bishops would oversee hiring a writer for the statement, which would be submitted for approval by all the bishops next November.

Task force chairman Bishop William B. Friend of Shreveport, La., noted in introducing the proposal that funding would be sought from outside sources to pay the costs of developing the pastoral statement. Sales of the publication would be expected to cover the costs of printing it.

But in discussion about the proposal, several bishops rose to question whether it was appropriate to be developing something new that had not gone through review by a formal committee and advance approval of expenditures, as will now be required under rules they agreed to a day earlier.

The new procedures were prompted by concerns raised by bishops in the last few years over how to control costs and the increased number of projects undertaken in their name.

Auxiliary Bishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Diego questioned whether it was appropriate to be adopting two documents that did not go through that new process. A National Pastoral Initiative on Marriage was scheduled to be discussed and voted on the same day.

"The issue is, are we doing too much," said Cincinnati Bishop Daniel E. Pilarczyk. "It seems we are saying we are going to go on a severe diet sometime next year. In the meantime, let's have another helping of what we are used to."

Brooklyn Auxiliary Bishop Joseph M. Sullivan warned that, if the bishops put aside the pastoral on the Bible in light of the previous day's actions, the next day's newspaper headline would be: "In an attempt to cut expenses, bishops decide not to encourage reading the Bible."

Several bishops rose to support the pastoral statement, arguing that especially in areas with large numbers of evangelicals the Bible is an important part of ecumenical efforts.

Archbishop Oscar H. Lipscomb of Mobile, Ala., said "it would be a disaster" in terms of public relations and in certain joint ventures with other faiths to set aside the statement.

"There should be some respect for initiatives that are already underway" when the new procedures were adopted, he said.

Archbishop Pilarczyk had the last word before a vote on his motion to send the pastoral statement idea back through the committee process.

He reminded the bishops that the conference does not exist "for good public relations, but to do the work of the church."

"The issue is not whether it's a good idea (to encourage study of the Bible) or whether we should follow the processes approved yesterday," Archbishop Pilarczyk said. "The question is whether we are serious about what we did yesterday or not."

His motion was approved by a 137-102 vote.

The public portion of the meeting was adjourned for the day before the bishops could get to the marriage initiative.

END


5 posted on 11/17/2004 12:17:12 PM PST by american colleen
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To: Pyro7480
I think Bishop Sklba is right in this.

Plus, what's the need for a new 'statement'? Why don't they just point to the Catechism?

133 The Church "forcefully and specifically exhorts all the Christian faithful . . . to learn ‘the surpassing knowledge of Jesus Christ,' by frequent reading of the divine Scriptures. ‘Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ.'"112

6 posted on 11/17/2004 12:20:22 PM PST by siunevada
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To: Pyro7480
It seems to me that quite a few of the bible belt bishops want to encourage reading the bible to stave off the evangelican protestant advances on biblically illiterate catholics. It can be intimidating to hear an evangelical who knows particular verses of the bible very well tell you why your catholic faith is in error and then back it up with cherry picked scripture. I imagine that can be a problem in the southern states.

Every catholic knows to read the bible... we hear it at Mass every day and complete passages are read aloud on certain holy days (thinking of lent). But we are lazy and I think because we have such a huge amount of spiritual material in print, we do not always put the bible first and foremost on our reading lists. It's not something that can be read right through at a few sittings and it is something that needs to be read slowly so you can reflect and understand it.

It seems that the conference weighed the cost and effectiveness of issuing some kind of print material on this commonly understood/common sense issue against the fact that the conference just agreed to cut down on all the print pronouncements it makes.

This is something each bishop can do in his own diocese... put the onus on the priests who are the ones who have contact with the laity. Write a column in the diocese's weekly newspaper. Put a sheet in the parish bulletin. Not something that requires the usccb.

7 posted on 11/17/2004 12:26:58 PM PST by american colleen
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To: Pyro7480

Lol, generally I don't agree with things that come out of the pre-Dolan Milwaukee world. But in this case, Bishop Sklba might be right, God help us. Anyway, the bishops saying that they shunted off this project because they were resolving to focus and not overextend themselves is a load of malarkey. Asking the USSCB to restrain itself is like expecting Congress to exercise fiscal discipline.


8 posted on 11/17/2004 12:28:42 PM PST by Lilllabettt
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To: american colleen

St. Jerome

"For if, as Paul says, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God, and if the man who does not know Scripture does not know the power and wisdom of God, then ignorance of Scriptures is ignorance of Christ."
-St. Jerome, "Against Vigilantius"

9 posted on 11/17/2004 12:29:49 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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Asking the USSCB to restrain itself is like expecting Congress to exercise fiscal discipline.

LOL! How right you are!

10 posted on 11/17/2004 12:30:57 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: Pyro7480

So do you think the usccb should have issued a document on this subject?


11 posted on 11/17/2004 12:40:00 PM PST by american colleen
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To: american colleen

At least in regard to what Catholic teaching is on Scripture, they should have issued something.


12 posted on 11/17/2004 12:42:23 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: Pyro7480
Not that I think you are wrong but important stuff like a reading the bible doc, because it would come from the usccb blob, would be relegated to the status of environmental statements, ecumenism statements, statement on 'passion of the christ movie' etc., etc., ad infinitum - not read and circular filed.

It's a worthy cause but best dealt with in each diocese, by each individual bishop - no committes to study the issue needed.

13 posted on 11/17/2004 1:02:28 PM PST by american colleen
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To: Pyro7480
they should have issued something.

Dei Verbum

14 posted on 11/17/2004 1:14:59 PM PST by Romulus
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To: Romulus
I'll take your Dei Verbum, and raise you Providentissimus Deus. ;-)
15 posted on 11/17/2004 1:19:12 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: Pyro7480

So we should have it covered, I'd say. While there are individual American bishops I haven't given up on, I don't trust the American bishops acting as a body to produce anything reliable in matters of doctrine, liturgy, or the time of day.

Why do we need to re-invent this wheel?


16 posted on 11/17/2004 1:24:48 PM PST by Romulus
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To: Pyro7480

I actually think that the USCCB and even the Holy See comes out with too many documents. They should apply their energies to promoting the doctrine of the faith and running the Church in accordance with existing rules. Sometimes clear statements are needed to correct erroneous doctrine or practices, but new documents also might themselves contain problematic statements.


17 posted on 11/17/2004 1:31:07 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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Bump to read later


18 posted on 11/17/2004 3:25:27 PM PST by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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