PROPHETIC SIGNS THAT WE ARE IN THE END TIMES [A good summary of SOME key evidences--QX]

CONTENDER MINISTRIES ^ | 11 JUL 2004 | JENNIFER RAST

[Quix]

It was set up in large part, mainly to present and discuss in fair minded ways prophetic dreams, visions etc. which God seems to be sharing with Believers in behalf of their prayers for the times we are in; our nation and families in such times and in the times coming in the near future.

[Quix]

Your exhortations are soooooo sweet!

LOL.

Perhaps some of the Roman folks can give us more input on such details. Not sure when I'll get to it.

The sourcing still sounds valid enough to me.

[topcat54]

Your exhortations are soooooo sweet!

Don't mention it.

Perhaps some of the Roman folks can give us more input on such details. Not sure when I'll get to it.

The sourcing still sounds valid enough to me.

What "sourcing"?? "There are none so blind as those who will not see."

[D Edmund Joaquin]

I wish that you'd also allow Him to speak to you vs silently indwelling you.

Well here is what Peter wrote: 2 Peter 1:19

We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

2Pe 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

Moreover, All your goofy October dream predictions never materialized. You are a false prophet.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Moreover, All your goofy October dream predictions never materialized.

God is good.

Hi, D'Ed. Glad to see you're up and walking still. (How does one walk still?) (Two?)

[D Edmund Joaquin]

When I came up out of the water, I was given a crutch and I named it lean on me

[Quix]

HO HO HO.

I don't think it was 0.

And, I don't know what effect prayer had. I noted at the time that they were a call to prayer to prevent such rather than the set in stone type.

And, I don't recall making any predicitons personally. I do like to collect puzzle pieces and discuss them with fairminded or like minded people.

[D Edmund Joaquin]

And, I don't recall making any predicitons (sic)personally. other than on the 27th of some month, sometime, some thing is going to happen and when it does I will jump up and say AHA! I do like to collect puzzle pieces and discuss them with fairminded blah blah blah

[paltz]

[Quix]

That one wasn't mine, either.

[Quix]

So sweeeeeet.

Thanks.

[D Edmund Joaquin]

LOL. Lets start with this comment

Actually, I'm talking about Holy Spirit breathed Biblical sorts of dreams and/or waking 'visions' which are instructive from The Lord for some reason--and in this case, predictive regarding terror attacks etc. in the month of Oct.

And then your now famous number ninety-nine in which you also say, to wit:

Thought I'd share. I have dreams all the time, but these really bugged me. I'm not sure what makes "prophecy" dreams different, but they are.

So it does appear your memory of your false prophecies runs out faster than a Hollywood lawyer when the money is gone

[JHavard]

Quix. I’m thankful as a believer to have people like you and others watching for the Lord. All Christians are commanded to WATCH, but it seems that some would prefer you didn’t bother telling them what you see.

There are over 20 commands in the New Testament to watch.

Watch for what?

Mt 24: 42-44 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Mark 13:33-35-37 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

1 Thess 5: 6. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

1 Peter 4:7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.

Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

What kind a watchman doesn’t cry out to warn those around him that are too busy with other things to watch for themselves.

I’ts like the story of the little boy that cried wolf so many times, that no one would listened, so I guess they’d prefer you wait until you see Christ coming in the clouds, and then yell at them on the way up. :)

Some can ignore the fact that all Christians are to watch, by branding the warnings as unfilled prophecies.

When we describe what we see as signs of Christ return, it isn’t a prophecy, since only God can make something happen, but if we don’t watch, and warn others of what we see, we are shirking the responsibility scripture gave us.

Keep up the good work.

JH :)

[Quix]

Yes, I was interested in prophecies about Oct because of the ones I'd come across.

There were some things which could have been construed to have fit within the parameters--I don't recall specifically at the time--long lost in tons of emails from tons of lists. But I recall that they were somewhat along the line of rather subtle things--none of the more dramatic stuff I somewhat expected but was by no means certain about--given that most of those giving such prophetic input exhorted that they were given largely to foster prayer to prevent such judgment falling so soon. I don't know what or how much such earnest prayers prevented. I'm sure you don't either.

As best as I can recall, this statement was from one of the prophetic sources I was posting and not my own words about my own experience.

You seem to have a great deal of trouble sorting out when I quote someone else vs when I state something myself. Interesting. Mystifyng unless you just have this heart problem of seeking every remote trumped up thing you can think of to dump on me--which seems rather probable given my observations of you.

[Quix]

Thanks.

Great point. And, great question and Scriptures.

LUB,

[Quix]

An interesting ref I stumbled across:

Hi Byrd...I know old post but just reading what you wrote here about this prophecy DID NOT EXIST BEFORE 1950.....is alot of bull****

It certainly did exist and many other prophecies of his as well.......maybe not on the web site , but in many of the books I have read in Greek...my grandmother who has passed away had books of many that still DO EXIST and dont go telling me that this was all made up!!!

And he does not mention ANY SPECIFIC DATE! of when the Antichrist will appear!!!

As for the many of the peoples appearance....YES,let's say we go back 20 yrs and look at the way society was and look at today's ...we can see that ''Morals'' have gone and that is a FACT not just a statement to OFFEND .........
You know.....people can believe whatever they wish to believe....
helen...........

And ....if I may seem a bit to harsh...well..Sorry!
But people will always say things to try to fit into a MODERN world...
That's it!

[Quix]

Additional Nilus info:

St. Nilus

(Neilos)

Nilus the elder, of Sinai (died c. 430), was one of the many disciples and fervent defenders of St. John Chrysostom. We know him first as a layman, married, with two sons. At this time he was an officer at the Court of Constantinople, and is said to have been one of the Prætorian Prefects, who, according to Diocletian and Constantine's arrangement, were the chief functionaries and heads of all other governors for the four main divisions of the empire. Their authority, however, had already begun to decline by the end of the fourth century.

While St. John Chrysostom was patriarch, before his first exile (398-403), he directed Nilus in the study of Scripture and in works of piety (Nikephoros Kallistos, "hist. Eccl.", XIV, 53, 54). About the year 390 (Tillemont, "Mémoires", XIV, 190-91) or perhaps 404 (Leo Allatius, "De Nilis", 11-14), Nilus left his wife and one son and took the other, Theodulos, with him to Mount Sinai to be a monk. They lived here till about the year 410 (Tillemont, ib., p. 405) when the Saracens, invading the monastery, took Theodulos prisoner. The Saracens intended to sacrifice him to their gods, but eventually sold him as a slave, so that he came into the possession of the Bishop of Eleusa in Palestine. The Bishop received Theodulos among his clergy and made him door-keeper of the church. Meanwhile Nilus, having left his monastery to find his son, at last met him at Eleusa. The bishop then ordained them both priests and allowed them to return to Sinai. The mother and the other son had also embraced the religious life in Egypt. St. Nilus was certainly alive till the year 430. It is uncertain how soon after that he died. Some writers believe him to have lived till 451 (Leo Allatius, op. cit., 8-14). The Byzantine Menology for his feast (12 November) supposes this. On the other hand, none of his works mentions the Council of Ephesus (431) and he seems to know only the beginning of the Nestorian troubles; so we have no evidence of his life later than about 430.

From his monastery at Sinai Nilus was a wellknown person throughout the Eastern Church; by his writings and correspondence he played an important part in the history of his time. He was known as a theologian, Biblical scholar and ascetic writer, so people of all kinds, from the emperor down, wrote to consult him. His numerous works, including a multitude of letters, consist of denunciations of heresy, paganism, abuses of discipline and crimes, of rules and principles of asceticism, especially maxims about the religious life. He warns and threatens people in high places, abbots and bishops, governors and princes, even the emperor himself, without fear. He kept up a correspondence with Gaina, a leader of the Goths, endeavouring to convert him from Arianism (Book I of his letters, nos. 70, 79, 114, 115, 116, 205, 206, 286); he denounced vigorously the persecution of St. John Chrysostom both to the Emperor Arcadius (ib., II, 265; III, 279) and to his courtiers (I, 309; III, 199).

Nilus must be counted as one of the leading ascetic writers of the fifth century. His feast is kept on 12 November in the Byzantine Calendar; he is commemorated also in the Roman martyrology on the same date. The Armenians remember him, with other Egyptian fathers, on the Thursday after the third Sunday of their Advent (Nilles, "Kalendarium Manuale", Innsbruck, 1897, II, 624).

The writings of St. Nilus of Sinai were first edited by Possinus (Paris, 1639); in 1673 Suarez published a supplement at Rome; his letters were collected by Possinus (Paris, 1657), a larger collection was made by Leo Allatius (Rome, 1668). All these editions are used in P. G., LXXIX. The works are divided by Fessler-Jungmann into four classes:

* (1) Works about virtues and vices in general: — "Peristeria" (P. G., LXXIX, 811-968), a treatise in three parts addressed to a monk Agathios; "On Prayer" (peri proseuches, ib., 1165-1200); "Of the eight spirits of wickedness" (peri ton th'pneumaton tes ponerias, ib., 1145-64); "Of the vice opposed to virtues" (peri tes antizygous ton areton kakias, ib., 1140-44); "Of various bad thoughts" (peri diapsoron poneron logismon, ib., 1200-1234); "On the word of the Gospel of Luke", xxii, 36 (ib., 1263-1280).
* (2) "Works about the monastic life": — Concerning the slaughter of monks on Mount Sinai, in seven parts, telling the story of the author's life at Sinai, the invasion of the Saracens, captivity of his son, etc. (ib., 590-694); Concerning Albianos, a Nitrian monk whose life is held up as an example (ib., 695-712); "Of Asceticism" (Logos asketikos, about the monastic ideal, ib., 719-810); "Of voluntary poverty" (peri aktemosynes, ib., 968-1060); "Of the superiority of monks" (ib., 1061-1094); "To Eulogios the monk" (ib., 1093-1140).
* (3) "Admonitions" (Gnomai) or "Chapters" (kephalaia), about 200 precepts drawn up in short maxims (ib., 1239-62). These are probably made by his disciples from his discourses.
* (4) "Letters": — Possinus published 355, Allatius 1061 letters, divided into four books (P. G., LXXIX, 81-585). Many are not complete, several overlap, or are not really letters but excerpts from Nilus' works; some are spurious. Fessler-Jungmann divides them into classes, as dogmatic, exegetical, moral, and ascetic. Certain works wrongly attributed to Nilus are named in Fessler-Jungmann, pp. 125-6.

NIKEPHOROS KALLISTOS, Hist. Eccl., XIV, xliv; LEO ALLATIUS, Diatriba de Nilis et eorum scriptis in his edition of the letters (Rome, 1668); TILLEMONT, Mémoires pour servir à l'histoire ecclésiastique, XIV (Paris, 1693-1713), 189-218; FABRICIUS-HARLES, Bibliotheca grœca, X (Hamburg, 1790-1809), 3-17; CEILLIER, Histoire générale des auteurs sacrés, XIII (Paris, 1729-1763), iii; FESSLER-JUNGMANN, Institutiones Patrologiœ, II (Innsbruck, 1896), ii, 108-128.

[Quix]

I guess the naysayer so given to exhorting smugly, haughtily and sternly about me not researching thoroughly enough was simply WRONG. It would be nice if he were less hypocritical.

The prohecy

IS

quoted in the 1911 Roman Catholic Encyclopedia.

As attested to at this site:

http://www.christianawakening.com/prophecy/prophecy.html#

reached from this initial page:

http://www.christianawakening.com/prophecy/prophecy.html

from this GOOGLE link:

Prophecy
... END Source not recorded. Ex-Internet. The Prophecy of Saint Nilus. ... [copied from "The Catholic Encyclopedia," 1911 copyright edition]. The Prophecy of Saint Nilus ...

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The Prophecy of Saint Nilus

Describing the Plight of the World and the Church during the 20th Century
Written By
SAINT NILUS
(d. circa AD 430)

Preliminary Remarks St. Nilus was one of the many disciples and fervent defenders of St. John Chrysostom. He was an officer at the Court of
Constantinople, married, with two sons. While St. John Chrysostom was patriarch, before his exile (398-403), he directed Nilus in
the study of Scripture and in works of piety. St. Nilus left his wife and one son and took the other, Theodulos, with him to Mt. Sinai
to be a monk. The Bishop of Eleusa ordained both St. Nilus and his son to the priesthood. The mother and other son also
embraced the religious life in Egypt. From his monastery at Sinai, St. Nilus was a well-known person throughout the Eastern
Church; by his writings and correspondence he played an important part in the history of his time. He was known as a theologian,
Biblical scholar and ascetic writer, so people of all kinds, from the emperor down wrote to consult him. His numerous works,
including a multitude of letters, consist of denunciations of heresy, paganism, abuses of discipline and crimes, of rules and
principles of asceticism, especially maxims about the religious life. He warns and threatens people in high places, abbots and
bishops, governors and princes, even the emperor himself, without fear. He kept up a correspondence with Gaina, a leader of the
Goths, endeavoring to convert him from Arianism. He denounced vigorously the persecution of St. John Chrysostom both to the
Emperor Arcadius and to his courtiers. St. Nilus must be counted as one of the leading ascetic writers of the fifth century. His feast
is kept on November 12th in the Byzantine Calendar; he is commemorated also in the Roman Martyrology on the same date. St.
Nilus probably died around the year 430 as there is no evidence of his life after that. [copied from "The Catholic Encyclopedia," 1911
copyright edition]

The Prophecy of Saint Nilus

After the year 1900, toward the middle of the 20th century, the people of that time will become unrecognizable. When the time
for the Advent of the Antichrist approaches, people's minds will grow cloudy from carnal passions, and dishonor and
lawlessness will grow stronger. Then the world will become unrecognizable. People's appearances will change, and it will be
impossible to distinguish men from women due to their shamelessness in dress and style of hair. These people will be cruel and
will be like wild animals because of the temptations of the Antichrist. There will be no respect for parents and elders, love will
disappear, and Christian pastors, bishops, and priests will become vain men, completely failing to distinguish the right-hand
way from the left. At that time the morals and traditions of Christians and of the Church will change. People will abandon
modesty, and dissipation will reign. Falsehood and greed will attain great proportions, and woe to those who pile up treasures.
Lust, adultery, homosexuality, secret deeds and murder will rule in society. At that future time, due to the power of such great
crimes and licentiousness, people will be deprived of the grace of the Holy Spirit, which they received in Holy Baptism and
equally of remorse. The Churches of God will be deprived of God-fearing and pious pastors, and woe to the Christians
remaining in the world at that time; they will completely lose their faith because they will lack the opportunity of seeing the light
of knowledge from anyone at all. Then they will separate themselves out of the world in holy refuges in search of lightening their
spiritual sufferings, but everywhere they will meet obstacles and constraints. And all this will result from the fact that the
Antichrist wants to be Lord over everything and become the ruler of the whole universe, and he will produce miracles and
fantastic signs. He will also give depraved wisdom to an unhappy man so that he will discover a way by which one man can
carry on a conversation with another from one end of the earth to the other. At that time men will also fly through the air like
birds and descend to the bottom of the sea like fish. And when they have achieved all this, these unhappy people will spend their
lives in comfort without knowing, poor souls, that it is deceit of the Antichrist. And, the impious one! -- he will so complete
science with vanity that it will go off the right path and lead people to lose faith in the existence of God in three hypostases. Then
the All-good God will see the downfall of the human race and will shorten the days for the sake of those few who are being
saved, because the enemy wants to lead even the chosen into temptation, if that is possible... then the sword of chastisement will
suddenly appear and kill the perverter and his servants.

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I also have emails into a couple of supposed scholars to comment on the authenticity and age of the prophecy. We shall see how long they take to reply.

[Gamecock]

GC I didn't mention what I am convinced of, bit I charge people a lot of money for fixing it.....

quix I have no clue what this sentence refers to or means.

Never mind.

[Quix]

My fee tends to go up when people say

nevermind

in the middle of the stream.