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Erastianism: Salve, Gubernatrix Suprema Ecclesiae Anglicanae
Ecclesia Anglicana ^ | October 27, 2004 | Taylor Marshall

Posted on 10/31/2004 10:05:28 AM PST by hiho hiho

What Anglicanism needs now most of all is some good old Erastianism. It's time that we got back to the old time religion of the Church of England. Henry VIII wanted the Latin Mass, celibacy, requiems and no Pope. He made it so. Mary Tudor wanted full Romanism. She made it happen. Queen Elizabeth wanted to appease the masses, so she ratified compromised Masses. Charles II wanted more saints day in the Church's Kalendar, and it was so. Erastianism works.

Even St Basil the Great and St Gregorian the Theologian knew that when the Church is weak and overly heretical, you've got to appeal to Caesar. Witness the Ecumenical Councils.

So I'm making an appeal to the Suprema Gubernatrix Ecclesiae Anglicanae, the Supreme Governess of the Anglican Church, Her Highness, Queen Elizabeth II. May she come to our rescue as our Fidei Defensor, the Defender of the Holy Faith. Hail Holy Queen, lift the light of thy countenance upon us. Beat down under thy feet the notorious evil-liver and the heretic. Cast out the priestess, the sodomite, and the dissenter. Lift up orthodoxy as a banner of truth. Bring all those under thy protection to the throne of thy Celestial King. Be our Exterminatrix against all false opinion and we shall open our lips and shew forth thy praise:

Hearken, O Queen, and consider, incline thine ear ; forget not thine own people, and thy father's house. So shall the Christ have pleasure in thy orthodoxy: for he is thy Lord God, and worship thou him. And the Theotokos shall be there with a gift : like as the English also among the nations shall make their supplication before thee. The Supreme Governess is all glorious within : her clothing is of wrought gold. She shall be brought unto the Celestial King in raiment of needle-work : the bishops that be her fellows shall bear her company, and shall be brought unto thee. With joy and gladness shall they be brought : and shall enter into the Christ's courts. Instead of heretics thou shalt have bishops: whom thou mayest make princes in all lands. I will remember thy reign from one generation to another : therefore shall the people give thanks unto thee, world without end. So shall we hymn thee, O Clement Matron, pity this Church and raise the rod of thy disciple over the scoundrel. Visit us and, by the power of God, restore glory to the Church of Merry England.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: anglican; episocpal

1 posted on 10/31/2004 10:05:29 AM PST by hiho hiho
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To: hiho hiho
Queen Elizabeth wanted to appease the masses, so she ratified compromised Masses.

Au contaire, my friend. Queen Elizabeth was not so much concerned about appeasing "the masses", the majority of which were closet Catholics, as she was about appeasing -- or at least holding at bay --

a) Those powerful nobles that profited handsomely by this dissolution of Church goods and proprieties...so lightly did the crown, and her claim to it, rest on her head.

b) Towards the end of her reign (c. 1588 and on)it was to "appease" the up and coming (financial) movers and shakers of the City of London -- the Puritan mechants, bankers, and, to a lesser extent, non-noble landowners. A class that finally realized that "Money command th all things" and that they were the ones with the money.

2 posted on 10/31/2004 10:16:23 AM PST by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter & a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: hiho hiho
Here's an image from the referenced website, and some of the comments following it:

I agree... Elizabeth Regina could certainly put that scepter to good use.

Doesn't she have some sort of secret powers? I envision her using the scepter as some sort of lightning weapon, á la Mortal Kombat.

As to the use of the scepter, yeah... something like Mortal Kombat would be great. Either that or some sort of comic book heroine, maybe "Queen of Clubs."

That scepter she's brandishing does indeed look like an excellent thwapping tool. However, my eyes are drawn to the orb, which could surely be packed with a significant quantity of high explosives and heaved over the trees into the next HOB midnight circle dance.

And the jewels would make very elegant shrapnel. Sweet!

Queen? I didn't know we had a Queen, I didn't vote for her.

Yeah... and I thought we were an autonomous collective?

3 posted on 10/31/2004 10:34:06 AM PST by solitas
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To: hiho hiho
Erastianism: Salve, Gubernatrix Suprema Ecclesiae Anglicanae

sounds like Jesse Jackson with a head cold.

4 posted on 10/31/2004 10:35:33 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: hiho hiho

***It's time that we got back to the old time religion of the Church of England. Henry VIII wanted the Latin Mass, celibacy, requiems and no Pope. ***

Sorry, it seems that God has other plans. It looks like He is building His Church is Asia and Africa. That is where vibrant Christianity is exploding. That's where people are literally throwing their lives away for Christ's sake.

Meanwhile, the Western church, having sunk into dead formalism, liberalism, entertainment-ism & apostasy, is only going to see the dust shaken from His feet as He turns to leave.


5 posted on 10/31/2004 12:20:49 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: solitas
That scepter she's brandishing does indeed look like an excellent thwapping tool. However, my eyes are drawn to the orb, which could surely be packed with a significant quantity of high explosives and heaved over the trees into the next HOB midnight circle dance.

It's worth noting that the Crown, the Sceptre and the Orb are all topped with a Cross. Indeed the entire purpose of the Orb is to symbolise the world (it being round) with a Cross on top demonstrating the rule of Christ over the planet.

The Coronation ceremony is extraordinary with the level of symbolism - it's the only part of Anglican ritual to have passed through the reformation unscathed (the ceremonial for Crowning H.M. the Queen is pretty much that used 1000 years ago). The rituals are greatly paralleled with the ordination including anointing and vesting in a golden Dalmatic and Stole. The various parts of the regalia are placed in the Altar before the Sovereign is invested with them; and the whole ceremony is carried out by the Archbishop of Canterbury.
6 posted on 11/01/2004 3:56:18 AM PST by tjwmason (Coerced and bribed window-dressing.)
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To: tjwmason
I've seen the films of E's coronation - the entire ceremony is truly awesome.

...and the whole ceremony is carried out by the Archbishop of Canterbury....
Kind of ironic that the next monarch could be installed by the current archbishop: "like unto like" so to speak (a dig against both their characters)...

One the more-base (and entertaining) side: I liken the Orb to the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch. Either that, or it's really a giant Cadbury egg.

7 posted on 11/01/2004 4:09:45 AM PST by solitas
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