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New book series challenges 'Left Behind'
World Net Daily ^ | October 22th, 2004

Posted on 10/22/2004 8:11:53 AM PDT by missyme

The publishers of "Left Behind" are launching a new series that challenges the end-times theology of the phenomenally popular books by Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins.

Illinois-based Tyndale House Publishers says the first book in the new series, "The Last Disciple," by "Bible Answer Man" Hank Hanegraaff and award-winning fiction author Sigmund Brouwer, asks the question, "What if the prophecies of Revelation have already been fulfilled?"

The opposing interpretation of the Bible is presented in a historical novel centered in first-century Rome and Jerusalem, the publishers say, as "these historical sites begin to experience the turbulence Christ prophesied as the beginning of the 'last days.'"

"Tension mounts as a villainous adversary seeks to find the disciple John's letter (the book of Revelation) and destroy it," a promo reads. "As a result, the early Christians must decipher a mysterious code in order to survive."

Hanegraaff, president and chairman of the board of the evangelical-based cult watchdog Christian Research Institute International, hosts a daily radio program, "Bible Answer Man," that boasts more than 6 million listeners a week.

"This series of novels constitutes one of the most significant projects I have ever been privileged to be involved in," Hanegraaff said in a statement. "Indeed, this initial novel is intended to be the first 'shot' in a debate that I believe will produce a paradigm shift -- a change in the way many in the church look at the end times."

He hopes the book will help people "read the book of Revelation, as well as the rest of Scripture, through the eyes of the early believers to whom it was originally written."

Hanegraaff also wrote best-sellers "The Prayer of Jesus," "Resurrection," "Christianity in Crisis," and "Counterfeit Revival."

Hanegraaff succeeded Christian Research Institute founder Walter Martin after Martin's death in 1989. Some Christians have criticized Hanegraaff for moving beyond Martin's critique of groups such as Jehovah's Witnesses and charging prominent evangelists with false teaching.

Hanegraaff contrasts the "Exegetical Eschatology" in his book with "Left Behind's" Dispensational theology, which grew in popularity in the 19th century and is embraced by many evangelical Christians today.

Dispensationalists believe in a future "rapture" of the church in which Christians will be suddenly taken to be with Jesus Christ before a seven-year period called the Tribulation. Jesus then will establish a 1,000-year reign on earth before Satan is released again on earth and then thrown in the lake of fire. They believe God will then establish a new heave and earth.

Hanegraaff believes most of the prophecies of Jesus and the book of Revelation were fulfilled with the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70. The tribulation, he contends, was the persecution of believers during the reign of Emperor Nero in Rome. When Jesus returns again, Hanegraaff says, he will immediately judge all peoples and establish a new heaven and earth.

Meanwhile, Tyndale has signed with LaHaye and Jenkins to extend the 12-book "Left Behind" series, creating two additional books.

The plot of one takes place before the first book, "Left Behind," and the other is set after the 12th book, "Glorious Appearing."


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To: ksen

Of course. It's far less civil on our side, however. You can see some of that stuff right here on FR.


21 posted on 10/22/2004 10:38:56 AM PDT by sinkspur ("If you're always talking, I can't get in a word edge-wise." God Himself.)
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To: ksen
Do you guys have the equivalent on your side of the Tiber?

Charlie Ponzi wasn't an Orthodox Jew...

22 posted on 10/22/2004 10:42:39 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: the invisib1e hand
How do you challenge fiction?

The same way that SO many challenged the Davinci Code. A work of pure fiction, but everyone started attacking it as though it was an actual fact.

23 posted on 10/22/2004 10:45:34 AM PDT by Traci (As if stress at work and at home weren't enough... this election is killing me!)
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To: missyme; xzins

D-spensationalists challenged by D-nialists.

As a believer in in plenary, verbal inspiration, and in the perspicacity of Scripture, I'll take the former, anytime.

Dan


24 posted on 10/22/2004 10:46:27 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
Great line......UR....# 24 post!

..........D-spensationalists challenged by D-nialists............

:-)

25 posted on 10/22/2004 10:50:29 AM PDT by maestro
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To: missyme
Just imagine the seven churches of Asia in the first century receiving the book of Revelation from John. Imagine the anticipation with which these persecuted Christians received this letter, waiting for the encouragement they would receive from it. Imagine the bitter disappointment they would have felt when they find out that the events spoken of were to take place in the early 21th century and had no meaning to them.

The book was written to 1st century Christians about 1st century events. The first verse of the book affirms that the events of the book were shortly to come to pass. To take the dispensational view is to rob the book of significance to the people it was addressed to.

26 posted on 10/22/2004 11:06:59 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo; All

Agreed this type of book is plain ol" wrong to try and confuse Chrisitians about the entire Book of Revelation"


27 posted on 10/22/2004 11:09:22 AM PDT by missyme
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To: BibChr; missyme; jude24

I do not hold with preterism, or with its early dating of the book of revelation.

If it was all fulfilled with John, and Polycarp was John's disciple, and Ireneaus was Polycarp's disciple, why is there any discussion at all over the meaning of the book?

Wouldn't they have passed it on? Why was Irenaeus writing years later a piece about trying to figure out who the coming antichrist would be?


28 posted on 10/22/2004 11:16:27 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: xzins

More fundamentally, if it was all fulfilled, then language means nothing, and we should toss our Bibles away — or yield them up to the new Magisterium.

Dan


29 posted on 10/22/2004 11:18:14 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr

I agree with you, of course.

But, it makes one scratch his head to read Irenaeus talking about trying to figure out who the coming antichrist will be.

Why do that if it was already fulfilled and passed on by John?

I find it to be a devastating critique of the early dating of Revelation.


30 posted on 10/22/2004 11:20:30 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: ksen

SAY WHUT?

How about some context, please?

And a suggestion at least TOWARD a point I'm supposed to ponder?

Weighty isolated topics on invisible skyhooks are hard to wrap a response around.


31 posted on 10/22/2004 1:09:33 PM PDT by Quix (PRAYERS 4 PRES, FAMILY, ADVISORS N OUR REPUBLIC IN OCT MAY BE VITALLY CRUCIAL)
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To: maestro

Either my mind is elsewhere and not multitasking well today or these are very arcane and obscure points of dubious import.

What exactly of any remotely lasting substance is there in all this which you would like some response to?


32 posted on 10/22/2004 1:11:21 PM PDT by Quix (PRAYERS 4 PRES, FAMILY, ADVISORS N OUR REPUBLIC IN OCT MAY BE VITALLY CRUCIAL)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Hannegraaff has been storing up some reaping from his sowing for a long time. I pray his Salvation survives the discipline headed his way.


33 posted on 10/22/2004 1:12:13 PM PDT by Quix (PRAYERS 4 PRES, FAMILY, ADVISORS N OUR REPUBLIC IN OCT MAY BE VITALLY CRUCIAL)
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To: ksen

He's a Calvinist pastor. Give him a break.

Besides, it's readable enough. And their speculations are as valid as a lot of others.

AT LEAST, GOD SEEMS TO HAVE USED the series to get key ideas before the hurting world such that when such events transpire--however similar or different they are from LaHaye's treatment of them--people will be inclined to go

DUH, YEAH, MAYBE THAT GUY LAHAYE WAS RIGHT AFTER ALL, I THINK I'D BETTER GET MY RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD SQUARED AWAY ASAP.

I consider that quite a good result. More power to them.

BTW, God evidently has a more positive view of the series than even I do. So, who am I to throw rocks at it. God has used it profoundly. Praise The Lord.

And, I'm not the least bit bothered that it doesn't fit some starchy, rigid, fossilized, tiny, tidy little boxes of some religious spirit addicted folks who seem to be quite overly bound up in their denominational/creedal/doctrines of men little boxes.


34 posted on 10/22/2004 1:15:46 PM PDT by Quix (PRAYERS 4 PRES, FAMILY, ADVISORS N OUR REPUBLIC IN OCT MAY BE VITALLY CRUCIAL)
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To: BibChr

Fascinating point!

Particularly from Dan!


35 posted on 10/22/2004 1:17:16 PM PDT by Quix (PRAYERS 4 PRES, FAMILY, ADVISORS N OUR REPUBLIC IN OCT MAY BE VITALLY CRUCIAL)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I beg to differ.

Understanding that God would wrap all things up in a very dramatic, triumphant way many centuries hence would reaffirm the expectations they had had earlier about
The Messiah coming as conquering King.

It could have given them a sense of closure and comforting satisfaction that God Almighty in the Old Testament was really following through on a grand plan that had a grand finali which they could partake in, in their glorified bodies.

I'd think that would have made the considerable suffering sof their era quite a bit more endurable.


36 posted on 10/22/2004 1:19:39 PM PDT by Quix (PRAYERS 4 PRES, FAMILY, ADVISORS N OUR REPUBLIC IN OCT MAY BE VITALLY CRUCIAL)
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To: BibChr

Goodness!

Is this a dream, a nightmare?

Am I agreeing more than once a millenium with Dan?

Dear God, please STAND BY ME--Jesus must definitely be coming soon!


37 posted on 10/22/2004 1:21:15 PM PDT by Quix (PRAYERS 4 PRES, FAMILY, ADVISORS N OUR REPUBLIC IN OCT MAY BE VITALLY CRUCIAL)
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To: old and tired
"Charlie Ponzi wasn't an Orthodox Jew..."

This may be, however, I have it on good authority that his direct line descendants have been running the Social Security Administration these last 60 plus years.

38 posted on 10/22/2004 1:21:22 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Quix
>BTW, God evidently has a more positive view of the series than even I do

What, you mean because
it's sold millions of copies?
Heck, if that is true

then God really likes
gothic romance books . . . They sell
by the ga-zillions . . .

39 posted on 10/22/2004 1:22:03 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Quix; ksen
Besides, it's readable enough. And their speculations are as valid as a lot of others.

As for their speculations, I would probably agree. I've not (as yet) staked a claim in that regard, although I know where I'm leaning.

Still, I would strongly disagree with the readability. Some of the writing is just painful. I think it was 8 or 9 (I forget which book), I put down for months cause I just couldn't stomach it...

40 posted on 10/22/2004 1:26:58 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Please God...deliver us from "President Kerry!")
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