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Vatican liturgy body wants more Latin, Gregorian chant
Catholic News ^ | October 15, 2004 | CN

Posted on 10/15/2004 10:54:13 AM PDT by Stubborn

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To: sinkspur
In most cases in churches built in the last 20 years

A Novus Ordo church built in the last 20 years? Where?
41 posted on 10/16/2004 1:09:28 PM PDT by latae sententiae (Last Things first!)
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To: sinkspur; sdsurfer; Pio; pascendi; Maeve; narses; Canticle_of_Deborah; ELS; Convert from ECUSA; ...

NO! The Most Blessed Sacrament, which is wholley and truly the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ - the Son of the Living God......the Second Person of the Most Blessed Trinity, belongs in one place in a church, and one place only.

In a tabernacle in the center of the high altar - prominantly centered in the middle of the sanctuary. Unmistakebly visable to all. Where all the lines of perspective of the building converge.

So that no man can possibly misundertstand what the purpose of a Catholic Church is. A temple of the Living God.

Not a "gathering space", or a "liturgy envirionment",or a meeting hall.

There can be no division or separation between the "static" and "active" presence of Christ in the Eucharist. Such is the screed of Modernists and Heretics, who do neither love nor worship Christ......nor do they beleive in Transubstatiation. Such is folly.......error, spiritual blindness......and is nothing but deception and evil.

Such erroneous viewpoints overtly, or subtly deny the presence of Christ in the consecrated host, and lead to the unfaith of the laity. And very craftily discourage private devotion. Such has been a major goal of the de-constructionists of the Church.


42 posted on 10/16/2004 2:20:27 PM PDT by thor76 (Our Lady of La Sallette, pray for us. Marie Julie Jehany, pray for us!)
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To: Selous; dsc; sdsurfer; Canticle_of_Deborah; ELS; Viva Christo Rey; Mark in the Old South; ...

Dear Lord, save us! Shock, horror of horrors!........hold me, I think I am having the vapors!!

Do you mean to insinuate that a Deacon - one who would claim that he is Holy Orders, would actually act in such a base and un-Christian manner....as to bait people, turn their words against them, twist logic/rason/church doctrine to suit his purpose.......insult people? Hurt their feelings.....use undue influence to try to get others suspended or banned?

No.....no....it cannot be! For such a man as a deacon would only fearlessly proclaim the truth of what the Church teaches, even give his very life for Christ and His Church. He would be the very embodiment of charity. He would empty himself for Christ.

His intellect, faith, and love of Christ would shine forth as an example to all....and would make non-Catholics wish to explore this Catholic Church, which could raise up such a godly man.


44 posted on 10/16/2004 2:31:47 PM PDT by thor76 (Our Lady of La Sallette, pray for us. Marie Julie Jehany, pray for us!)
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To: k omalley

May Jesus Christ be praised, that you had such a wonderful experience at a Traditional Latin Mass!


45 posted on 10/16/2004 2:34:08 PM PDT by thor76 (Our Lady of La Sallette, pray for us. Marie Julie Jehany, pray for us!)
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To: sinkspur
The Vatican is telling you what is appropriate, papasan.

Weren't you the one on the other thread accusing us of being racists?

46 posted on 10/16/2004 3:02:25 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: latae sententiae

We've had six built in our little dioces in that time.

47 posted on 10/16/2004 3:29:42 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I swim with the alligators in the fevered swamps of traditionalism. " Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: thor76
belongs in one place in a church, and one place only.

John Paul II and Cardinal Arinze, Prefect for the Congregation for Divine Worship, disagree with you.

48 posted on 10/16/2004 3:31:27 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I swim with the alligators in the fevered swamps of traditionalism. " Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

"Papasan" is a term of respect, in Japan.


49 posted on 10/16/2004 3:32:00 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I swim with the alligators in the fevered swamps of traditionalism. " Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sinkspur

somehow, I doubt you were using it in that manner.


50 posted on 10/16/2004 3:36:29 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
somehow, I doubt you were using it in that manner.

Of course. You always assume the worst of people.

51 posted on 10/16/2004 3:44:48 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I swim with the alligators in the fevered swamps of traditionalism. " Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sinkspur

What I have written, I have written.


52 posted on 10/16/2004 3:47:49 PM PDT by thor76 (Our Lady of La Sallette, pray for us. Marie Julie Jehany, pray for us!)
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To: thor76
What I have written, I have written.

It surprises not in the least that you would have a quote from Pontius Pilate at your fingertips.

53 posted on 10/16/2004 3:56:20 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I swim with the alligators in the fevered swamps of traditionalism. " Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sinkspur

Well, the center of the Altar was appropriate throughout Church history - pre 1967ish.....its just a matter of time.


54 posted on 10/16/2004 4:44:13 PM PDT by Stubborn (It Is The Mass That Matters)
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To: dsc

LOL


55 posted on 10/16/2004 4:44:25 PM PDT by Stubborn (It Is The Mass That Matters)
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To: mware

Something done out of shear frustration no doubt - only problem is, is that today, the biggest accused heretics are generally those trying to preserve Church teachings, so this fellow has his work cut out for himself IMHO.


56 posted on 10/16/2004 4:48:49 PM PDT by Stubborn (It Is The Mass That Matters)
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To: sinkspur
The Letter requests that the Eucharist be given an appropriate place for private devotion.

Private devotion? When He is not placed in an appropriate place for public devotion, never preached, taught or believed in by even many priests these days, what reason would anyone have to even think they need to have a private devotion?

57 posted on 10/16/2004 4:53:49 PM PDT by Stubborn (It Is The Mass That Matters)
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To: Stubborn
Well, the center of the Altar was appropriate throughout Church history - pre 1967ish.....its just a matter of time.

A chapel for the Blessed Sacrament, that can be used for daily mass and adoration, makes more sense from a practical and devotional standpoint.

58 posted on 10/16/2004 4:57:50 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I swim with the alligators in the fevered swamps of traditionalism. " Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: k omalley
Yes, this is a story that repeats itself, most often when folks like yourself have, thanks to the changes, never been allowed to experience the Holy Sacrifice. Wonderfull to hear and God Bless you!

BTW, if you don't mind me asking, why were you kicked out many years ago?

59 posted on 10/16/2004 4:59:09 PM PDT by Stubborn (It Is The Mass That Matters)
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To: latae sententiae

Good Answer!


60 posted on 10/16/2004 5:01:11 PM PDT by Stubborn (It Is The Mass That Matters)
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