"Original Sin" is an Augustinian concept which, as Black Veil points out, is not and never has been accepted in the Eastern Church. The Roman doctrine of Limbo is an outgrowth or natural consequence of that theology. Thus while the Roman Church teaches that Baptism is fundamentally about wiping out that "Original" sin, the Eastern Church teaches in its hymnology among other places that "All those who have been baptised in Christ have put on Christ.", become members of the Church, the Body of Christ on Earth.
Oh, really?
"If in the case of the worst sinners and of those who formerly sinned much against God, when afterwards they believe, the remission of their sins is granted and no one is held back from Bpatism and grace, how much more, then , should and infant not be held back, who, having but been recently born, has done no sin, except that, born of he flesh according to Adam, he has contracted the contagion of that old death from his first being born. For this very reason does he approach more easily to receive the remssion of sins: because the sins forgiven him are not his own but those of another." (St. Cyprian of Carthage, Letter 64, AD 251)
"The sin of Adam deservedly passed on to all his posterity because they were begottne of him." (St. Pacian of Barcelona, Sermon on Baptism, AD 392)
And more.
Didymus the Blind: "that sin, which, indeed, all who are descended from Adam contract in sucession." (Against the Manicheans, c. AD 380)
St. John Chrysostom: "'For just as by the disobedience of one man the many were made sinners' ... What does the word 'sinners' mean here? It seems to me that it means liable to punishment and condemned to death." (On Romans, 10, AD 391)
St. Ambrose: "The sin of Adam deservedly passed on to his posterity, because they were begotten of him ..." (Sermon on Baptism, AD 392)
St. Athanasius: "When Adam transgressed, sin reached out to all men." (Discourses Against the Arians, 1, AD 360)
etc., etc.
I suppose you claim this is pre-Augustine Augustinianism? The Pelagians said that too.
"Since by transgression of the first man the whole progeny of the human race is vitiated, no one can be freed from the condition of the old man except by the Sacrament of the Baptism of Christ." (Pope St. Leo the Great, Epistle 15)
as Black Veil points out, is not and never has been accepted in the Eastern Church.
Really? So you believe that little children are born sanctified? That is the only alternative to believing that they are not, which is what the Roman Church teaches, and which is the meaning of original sin.
The Roman doctrine of Limbo is an outgrowth or natural consequence of that theology.
Ah yes. So of course, this is why it finds its first expression from St. Gregory Nazianz? Clearly a papal hack theologian.
"Others are not in a position to receive it, perhaps on account of infancy, or some perfectly involuntary circumstance through which they are prevented from receiving it, even if they wish. ... [they] will neither be glorified nor punished by the righteous Judge, as unsealed and not yet wicked, but persons who have suffered rather than done wrong. For not everyone who is not bad enough to be punished is good enough to be honored; just as everyone who is not good enough to be honored is bad enough to be punished." (Oration on Holy Baptism, 40.22-23, AD 381)
Thus while the Roman Church teaches that Baptism is fundamentally about wiping out that "Original" sin, the Eastern Church teaches in its hymnology among other places that "All those who have been baptised in Christ have put on Christ.", become members of the Church, the Body of Christ on Earth.
Actually, the Roman Church teaches the same thing. "Wiping out original sin" means infusing the infant's soul with grace. Original sin means the child is born estranged from Christ and lacking in the sanctifying grace and original justice with which our first parents were endowed with, but lost.
Similarly, the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception means that Blessed Mary, at the moment she was concevied and given a soul by God, that soul was also infused with grace to link her to Christ in God. In other words, she was saved at conception, and became Christ's then, rather than being saved at Baptism.
Simple question, do you believe little children come into the world with or without grace infused in their souls?
***Original Sin" is an Augustinian concept which, as Black Veil points out, is not and never has been accepted in the Eastern Church.***
How does the Eastern Church interpret the following...
"Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned-- for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come."
- Romans 5
and...
"For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. "
- I Cor 15