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VANITY: Any other Pagan Conservatives here at FR?

Posted on 10/06/2004 10:41:10 PM PDT by Ostlandr

Just thought I'd test the waters here at FR's religion board. Any other Pagan Conservatives here?


TOPICS: Activism; Ecumenism; General Discusssion; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: conservative; pagan; wiccan
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To: Hunble
To your first two questions, the answer is yes.

To your third question, that is answered by accepting the sovereignty of God.
61 posted on 10/08/2004 11:20:32 AM PDT by Gingersnap
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To: Hunble

Interesting how much pagan ritual has survived in the Catholic church. St. Brigid is just the Celtic archetype Brigid, patron of Poetry, Smithcraft and Healing. And the May Crowning? Mary, mother of Jesus, neatly filled the void in the hearts of Celtic former pagans forced to give up their beloved Goddess.
Of course Celts (and Britons) have always had a unique relaionship with the Church:

"Oh, do not tell the Priest of our plight,
for he would call it a sin;
but we've been out in the wood all night
a-conjuring summer in.
And we bring you good news by word of mouth,
good news for cattle and corn;
today is the Sun brought up from the South
by Oak, and Ash, and Thorn."

- from "Oak, Ash and Thorn" - traditional song


62 posted on 10/08/2004 6:21:26 PM PDT by Ostlandr (Nationalist, small-r republican, fiscal conservative, social liberal, pagan. NOT a Bush partisan!)
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To: oceanperch

What a nice thought.


63 posted on 10/08/2004 11:13:14 PM PDT by Jubal ("The end of the human race will be that it will eventually die of civilization." - R W Emerson)
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To: Ostlandr

See my profile page.


64 posted on 10/11/2004 7:04:10 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either religious moral relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: Ostlandr

Asatru. Was a Garderian pagan there for about ten years. Too many "hug the Earth" liberal flakes for me to stomach. Needed something that spoke more to the Warrior in my blood.


65 posted on 10/11/2004 7:10:49 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (My days of taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle)
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To: dangus
They each had a picture of a puppy. I had to bite my lip.

LMBO

66 posted on 10/11/2004 7:14:21 AM PDT by UsnDadof8 (The groundswell of public opinion is about to hit John Kerry. And it won't be pretty)
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To: Hunble
"If there was only one Jesus, how is it possible to have so many Christian denominations? Did Jesus not teach everyone the exact same lesson?"

Two simplistic questions. The profound answers:

[1] Spiritual maturity determines where God's elect are at any particular point in their lives.

[2] Everyone's emotional maturity is different. Jesus teaches the childish, simple, elect at a different rate than the more mature.

That's why shallow mentalities have to be instructed not to judge by outward appearances.

67 posted on 10/11/2004 7:19:19 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either religious moral relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: Hunble
"If there was only one Jesus, how is it possible to have so many Christian denominations? Did Jesus not teach everyone the exact same lesson?"

Two simplistic questions. The profound answers:

[1] Spiritual maturity determines where God's elect are at any particular point in their lives.

[2] Everyone's emotional maturity is different. Jesus teaches the childish, simple, elect at a different rate than the more mature.

That's why shallow mentalities have to be instructed not to judge by outward appearances.

68 posted on 10/11/2004 7:20:25 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either religious moral relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: bad company
Really?

Gosh, whats a henway?

69 posted on 10/11/2004 8:41:58 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Ostlandr

What is your definition of a "pagan"?

Becky


70 posted on 10/11/2004 8:46:20 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (I have a plan......vote for Bush:)
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To: Mr. Lucky
Really?

Gosh, whats a henway?

Oh, don't patronize me now.....I'm still skulking over that one. I can't believe that not one person here on FR fell for that. Maybe I should sign up on du to pull a cheap one like that.

71 posted on 10/11/2004 11:09:35 AM PDT by bad company (Global test? Damn I forgot to study.)
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To: bad company

Well, don't lose sight of your updock.


72 posted on 10/11/2004 11:23:18 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky
Well, don't lose sight of your updock.

(sleepily typing) My updock.....Wha....What's updock?

73 posted on 10/11/2004 11:26:48 AM PDT by bad company (Global test? Damn I forgot to study.)
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To: bad company

In humor, as in the arts, the classics are still the best.


74 posted on 10/11/2004 11:29:13 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

The general definition of Pagan is anyone who is not a Christian. It's from the Latin 'paganus', which roughly translates to hillbilly. Christianity took root first in the cities, and the isolated folks in the country still clung to the old ways (sometimes to the present day.) The term 'heathen' has the same meaning; "of the heath" (heath = grasslands or countryside.)
Lately, the term has come to mean (current dictionary) anyone who isn't Christian, Jewish or Muslim; the three monotheistic religions that follow the God of Abraham.
My real break with Christianity is that I believe that God and Mother Nature not only know each other, but are husband and wife. I also find Christianity hard to reconcile with the way of the warrior. So I guess that makes me a pagan.

An aside: I now find I need to keep the Bible, Latin dictionary and English dictionary by the computer.
Free Republic: food for the mind.


75 posted on 10/12/2004 5:17:19 PM PDT by Ostlandr (Nationalist, small-r republican, fiscal conservative, social liberal, pagan. NOT a Bush partisan!)
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To: Dead Corpse

I find that I turn to different aspects of the Lady and the Lord depending on my particular need at the moment.
Gardnerian Wicca seems to have more in common with the Golden Dawn than the old Goddess religion. And a lot of modern Wicca has been influenced by Dianic tradition- relegating the Lord to a minor supporting role (if He gets mentioned at all.)


76 posted on 10/12/2004 5:31:22 PM PDT by Ostlandr (Nationalist, small-r republican, fiscal conservative, social liberal, pagan. NOT a Bush partisan!)
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To: Ostlandr

I'll risk a ZOT and say you should keep a low profile. Anything other than some kind of orthodox Christian beliefs don't seem welcome on FR.

I hope that politics trumps religion on Free Republic,
but I'm new and maybe it will become more clear.


77 posted on 10/12/2004 5:46:07 PM PDT by hlmencken3
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To: hlmencken3

I first became politically active in the Goldwater campaign. I helped found the libertarian movement by organizing the draft card burning at the 1969 YAF convention that is regarded as the beginning of the libertarian movement. In the 80's I discovered that I am a pagan. I am happy to send to anyone writings that have appeared in Liberty and various blogs. I have also met very nice open minded evangelical christians.


79 posted on 11/16/2004 11:49:46 AM PST by meetoo
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