Hudson Forced to Resign from Crisis Magazine

The Washington Times ^ | September 22, 2004 | Julia Duin

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Deal Hudson, publisher of Crisis magazine and, until recently, a top Bush political adviser on outreach to Roman Catholics, will resign from the magazine at the end of the year after five of his most influential columnists pressured the board to get rid of him.

The columnists, who include some of the nation's best-known Catholic scholars, told the board in a letter that they would leave the magazine unless the board ejected Mr. Hudson, 54.

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Another neo-Cat icon bites the dust...

[Christopher Dion]

Isn't Crisis magazine a publication of the NAA(L)CP?

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No.

[frog_jerk_2004]

What are the other accusations?

[Unam Sanctam]

Your use of the term "neo-Cat" demonstrates a schismatic intent on your part. The Catholic Church is one and the same Church founded by Christ, pre- and post- Vatican II.

[Blessed Charlemagne]

You like to throw that term around, don't you? Schismatic intent? By using the term "Neo-Cat"? Just as in politics the term "neoconservative" (also called neo-Catholic in religious matters) is a convenient distinction, and one some merit. I agree that in the realm of religion it is perhaps often a vague distinction (or one rather difficult to define), but certainly not without its merits.

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The Catholic Church is one and the same Church founded by Christ, pre- and post- Vatican II.

Agreed.

Your use of the term "neo-Cat" demonstrates a schismatic intent on your part.

Ridiculous! Do you even know what schism is? Is everyone who disagrees with you schismatic?

[Unam Sanctam]

The Catholic Church is the Catholic Church. Full stop. The Vatican II Council did not creat a new religion or a new church, a "Novus Ordo Church", "Establishment Church", "Neo-Catholics" or anything of the sort, contra to the Lefebvrists and their collaborators in trashing the Catholic Church, the liberal dissenters.

[Unam Sanctam]

By use of the term "neo-Catholics", you are implying that faithful orthodox Catholics in full communion with the see of Peter aresomething less than or different from "Catholics". That clearly shows that you believe that the Catholic Church, governed by and in communion with the Successor of Peter is not the Catholic Church, ergo, it supports a schismatic mindset.

[dangus]

This seems strange... My impression was that Crisis and NCR were opponents, and that NCR was scandal-mongering old sins.

What are these columnists' conecerns?

[NYer]

Just as in politics the term "neoconservative" (also called neo-Catholic in religious matters) is a convenient distinction, and one some merit.

I use the word in quotation marks and as a matter of convenience. It covers a range from Catholics loyal to the Holy See and attached to the classical Roman liturgy to those "linked in various ways to the Fraternity founded by Archbishop Lefebvre"[5] to those who are "sedevacantists" and who believe that there is presently no legitimate Pope occupying the See of Peter. There are even those who identify themselves as "traditionalist" Catholics as if this designates a particular species of Catholics not to be confused with "garden variety" Roman Catholics. Please note that when I use the word "traditionalist" in this presentation I am not referring to serious Catholics who love the Church, are docile to her teaching and "are attached to the Latin liturgical tradition"[6]; I am speaking, rather, of ideologists who have no concern for the care of souls (cf. Jn. 10:12-13) and who are totally committed to a crusade for the restoration of the 1962 Roman Missal at any cost.
Msgr Arthur Calkins,
Pontificial Commission,
Ecclesi dei, Rome

Thank you to the Monsignor, for clarifying that point.

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By use of the term "neo-Catholics", you are implying that faithful orthodox Catholics in full communion with the See of Peter aresomething less than or different from "Catholics". That clearly shows that you believe that the Catholic Church, governed by and in communion with the Successor of Peter is not the Catholic Church, ergo, it supports a schismatic mindset.

I'm not referring to "faithful orthodox Catholics in full communion with the see of Peter." What I'm suggesting is that Neo-Catholics, who indeed may be in "full communion," espouse novel, modernist ideas that are antithetical to Apostolic Tradition.

I'm not here to judge people's status with the Church, or their level of devotion to this Pope, like some people, Unam; that appears to be your job!

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By use of the term "neo-Catholics", you are implying that faithful orthodox Catholics in full communion with the See of Peter aresomething less than or different from "Catholics". That clearly shows that you believe that the Catholic Church, governed by and in communion with the Successor of Peter is not the Catholic Church, ergo, it supports a schismatic mindset.

I'm not referring to "faithful orthodox Catholics in full communion with the see of Peter." What I'm suggesting is that Neo-Catholics, who indeed may be in "full communion," espouse novel, modernist ideas that are antithetical to Apostolic Tradition.

I'm not here to judge people's status with the Church, or their level of devotion to this Pope, like some people, Unam; that appears to be your job!

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Sorry for the double post.

[Unam Sanctam]

Given that the Pope himself on this site has been referred to as a "neo-Catholic" and a "Novus Ordo authority", it would appear that many here do not discriminate between faithful orthodox Catholics within the Church and liberal dissenters.

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My guess is that they came to view Deal as a liability--dead weight on an already sinking ship. Crisis magazine might survive, but it needs to return to its "roots."

[connectthedots]

As a non-RC, I am impressed that these authors held a gun to the board's head.

[Blessed Charlemagne]

"Given that the Pope himself on this site has been referred to as a "neo-Catholic" and a "Novus Ordo authority", it would appear that many here do not discriminate between faithful orthodox Catholics within the Church and liberal dissenters."

This is precisely the reason traditionalists use the term "neo-con."; that is, to distinguish between the two groups who are not traditionalists. Most traditionalists do not consider neo-cons to be raging libs. If we did there would be no point in making the distinction. But that there is a difference between the three groups is almost universally acknowledged and accepted. What exactly are you contesting?

Also, please quit throwing around a term (schismatic) without understanding what it means, or at least with giving any indication in your posts that you know what it means.

[Blessed Charlemagne]

By the way, what the hell does this debate over the legitimacy of the term "neo-con" have to do with the article. Not a damn thing. People on both sides need to stop these B.S. gut jabs and begin discussing things with some intelligence and objectivity.

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Interesting news.