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To: JHavard

I think it’s much safer to depend on Gods written word. I just can’t picture Him getting angry at me for believing everything He said, but I wouldn’t be that confident if I had to tell Him I ignored his word and followed gossip and hearsay.

You are contradicting Scripture, and the Faith, therefore the Church thet God established here on earth to teach, govern, sanctify and save all men. 2 Timothy 2:2 And the things which thou hast heard of me by many witnesses, the same commend to faithful men, who shall be fit to teach others also.

Best advice I have for you is to start praying the Rosary.

371 posted on 10/01/2004 2:38:08 AM PDT by Stubborn (It is the Mass that matters)
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To: Stubborn
You are contradicting Scripture, and the Faith, therefore the Church thet God established here on earth to teach, govern, sanctify and save all men. 2 Timothy 2:2 And the things which thou hast heard of me by many witnesses, the same commend to faithful men, who shall be fit to teach others also.

It’s too bad you can’t read just what it says. Paul told Timothy to only teach those things that many faithful witnesses have heard him say previously, and are willing to confirm that he said them.

Catholics would have us believe that they were on the inside, and heard and knew things that no one else was privy to hear. If a faith doesn’t need biblical support for the traditions it teaches, then there was no need for scripture or God’s word in the first place.

That’s why whole cloth traditions are condemned. They need biblical roots, or there nothing more then the traditions and commandments of men.

You seem to believe that if someone brings a tradition into the Church that was never taught in the Bible, and if others like it, and begin to emulate it, then eventually it becomes an official Church tradition, and it has the same weight as the biblical commands.

If a Pagan attended the early Church and practiced one of their Pagan rituals, such as making the sign of “T,” for Tamaz on their chest, and everyone thought how neat it looked, and soon everyone was doing the same thing, that could end up a Church tradition.

Since there is no biblical support for it, it would be a man made tradition, and not a command of God.
Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Best advice I have for you is to start praying the Rosary.

Another man made tradition? You have traditions for your traditions, and my guess is that a few sincere words from the heart mean more to God then a thousand memorized words that are not from the heart but by rote.

JH :)

372 posted on 10/03/2004 7:32:14 AM PDT by JHavard
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