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Bishop tells parishioners to prepare for fewer priests
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | Friday, September 17, 2004 | Ann Rodgers

Posted on 09/17/2004 8:36:25 PM PDT by Land of the Irish

Bishop Donald Wuerl is calling on the people of the Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh to prepare for a future with fewer priests.

"Fewer priests does not mean less ministry," Wuerl wrote in a pastoral letter in this week's Pittsburgh Catholic.

(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic
KEYWORDS: catholic; pittsburgh; vaticancouncilii; wuerl
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Wuerl's letter stressed the importance of lay persons stepping up to take responsible roles in the mission of the church. That is not a compromise, but the vision put forth by Vatican II, Lengwin said.
1 posted on 09/17/2004 8:36:26 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish

Catholics - Pray for vocations!!!!


2 posted on 09/17/2004 8:37:03 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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3 posted on 09/17/2004 8:38:13 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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4 posted on 09/17/2004 8:39:06 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
Isn't it amazing that the Church can ordain 750 permanent deacons every year (most of them married), and only 400 celibate priests?

There is no shortage of married men willing to serve the Church. There is, however, a shortage of celibate men willing to serve the Church.

What am I missing?

5 posted on 09/17/2004 8:49:00 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I heard that the traditionalists have taken over the FR religion forum"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sinkspur

Huh??? I think you just answered your own question...


6 posted on 09/17/2004 8:54:09 PM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: sinkspur
There is no shortage of married men willing to serve the Church. There is, however, a shortage of celibate men willing to serve the Church.

What am I missing?

Looking at it from a practical standpoint, I think that there would be many more priests if they were allowed to be married. However, I think those priests would also be very distracted with the duties and responsibilities of parenthood and children. After all if priests were to marry, they obviously wouldn't commit the very grave sin of practicing artificial birth control. Many of these priests would have a wife and a bunch of kids. How could they tend to their families and their parishes at the same time? Could the Church support them financially? We all know Catholics are notoriously cheap.

7 posted on 09/17/2004 9:08:43 PM PDT by Grey Ghost II
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To: Grey Ghost II
How could they tend to their families and their parishes at the same time? Could the Church support them financially? We all know Catholics are notoriously cheap.

Things seem to be working quite well in the parishes (five of them) served by Anglican dispensation priests in our diocese. Catholics have stepped up to support their married pastors.

8 posted on 09/17/2004 9:14:05 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I heard that the traditionalists have taken over the FR religion forum"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sinkspur
Things seem to be working quite well in the parishes (five of them) served by Anglican dispensation priests in our diocese.

Well you really won't know for some time. I often tell people that I won't know whether I was a success as a parent until my children have died and THEY have gone to Heaven.

9 posted on 09/17/2004 9:17:28 PM PDT by Grey Ghost II
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To: Grey Ghost II
Actually, we know now. Bringing married Protestant convert priests into the Catholic priesthood has enriched the Church.

Now, if married Catholics were considered for the priesthood, it would be enriched further.

10 posted on 09/17/2004 9:19:27 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I heard that the traditionalists have taken over the FR religion forum"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sinkspur
What am I missing?

The fact that this is the first time in the history of the Catholic church that it can't get anyone to take vows of celibacy to serve it. Never was a problem in the past.

The precipitous devolution just happens to perfectly coincide with the late 60s, just when Vatican II befell us. Just luck of the draw I guess.

Part of the problem is that heterosexuals don't care to attend seminaries full of leftists who often treat the dorms as a bath house, just to graduate and go to work for an episcopal in the John F. Kerry wing of Catholicism.

11 posted on 09/17/2004 9:23:00 PM PDT by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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Now, if married Catholics were considered for the priesthood, it would be enriched further.

I'm married. Do you believe that the Church would be enriched further if I was a ordained a priest?

12 posted on 09/17/2004 9:28:46 PM PDT by Grey Ghost II
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To: AAABEST
The reasons for the decline in the priesthood are a point for discussion, for another day.

I'm more interested in the solution to a shortage of priests and to the enrichment of the oriesthood.

13 posted on 09/17/2004 9:28:51 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I heard that the traditionalists have taken over the FR religion forum"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: Grey Ghost II

Only if you came back to the Catholic Church.


14 posted on 09/17/2004 9:30:35 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I heard that the traditionalists have taken over the FR religion forum"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sinkspur
Not many people respect priests anymore. If priests were stronger and more authoritative than the average wimpy dudes the seminaries are putting out, more people would respect the profession. Seriously, what kind of man wants to sign up for a life time of parish council meetings run by menopausal women and effeminate men who have no power in their day jobs so they exercise it on Wednesday evenings in the local parish pastoral center?

Many priests don't even respect themselves. Many are afraid to tell people what they need to hear. Many are afraid to stand up for the Church and Her teachings. Many have as their main goal, to be popular and well liked. For many, salvation of souls is secondary.

Please note, I said many priests, not all priests. Unlike the ICEL, I can distinguish between many and all.

15 posted on 09/17/2004 9:43:54 PM PDT by Grey Ghost II
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To: Grey Ghost II

Come back to the Church. I can't take you seriously until you do.


16 posted on 09/17/2004 9:49:15 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I heard that the traditionalists have taken over the FR religion forum"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sinkspur
Come back to the Church. I can't take you seriously until you do.

What are you talking about? I go to an FSSP parish. Why am I not in the Church?

17 posted on 09/17/2004 9:52:27 PM PDT by Grey Ghost II
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To: sinkspur
Poverty, chastity and obedience is still thankfully the unwavering postition of our church.

Let's go straight to the source.

Matthew 19 10-12;29
His disciples say unto him: If the case of a man with his wife be so, it is not expedient to marry. Who said to them: All men take not this word, but they to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs, who were born so from their mothers womb: and there are eunuchs, who were made so by men: and there are eunuchs, who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven. He that can take, let him take it.

And every one that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall possess life everlasting.


18 posted on 09/17/2004 9:57:21 PM PDT by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: diamond6
Catholics - Pray for vocations!!!!

Not a chance. I am done with the arrogance of bishops. Perhaps Martin Luther was on to something.

This megalomaniac should have considered the alternative headline:

...the Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh is calling their bishop to prepare for a future with fewer parishioners.

19 posted on 09/17/2004 10:01:03 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either)
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To: Grey Ghost II; sinkspur; Religion Moderator
What are you talking about? I go to an FSSP parish. Why am I not in the Church?

Because he said you are and you're bad.

Despite the admonitions of our RM who is somehow trying to get a handle on this, it has to get personal immediately... if not sooner. Look at his tagline.

I for one am 100% behind our RM on this. I would like to be able to intelligently discuss issues once in a while.

20 posted on 09/17/2004 10:09:05 PM PDT by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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