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Wuerl's letter stressed the importance of lay persons stepping up to take responsible roles in the mission of the church. That is not a compromise, but the vision put forth by Vatican II, Lengwin said.
1 posted on 09/17/2004 8:36:26 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish

Catholics - Pray for vocations!!!!


2 posted on 09/17/2004 8:37:03 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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3 posted on 09/17/2004 8:38:13 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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4 posted on 09/17/2004 8:39:06 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Land of the Irish

Fewer liberal novus ordo priests won't hurt the Church especially now that all their parishioners are dying off.
Many of the newchurch "priests" today are nothing more than sodomite draft-dodgers, and many of the rest don't believe in the Real Presence. Here's just another example...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3653784.stm
"During holy mass we need to drink wine as a symbol of the blood of Christ," one of the priests told the newspaper.


34 posted on 09/18/2004 1:25:57 AM PDT by AskStPhilomena
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To: Land of the Irish
As a public service to lurkers and others who may be interested and in the interests of fairness and balance, allow me to quote the statistics from the latest Pontifical Yearbook to which I have access.

The 2004 Yearbook which quotes figures from the year 2002 shows an increase in diocesan priests and a continuing decrease in the number of religious-order priests and women religious.

There are 4,217,572 persons engaged in pastoral activity, down 1.2% from the previous year's tally of 4,270,069. That number was broken down as follows:

4,695 bishops, 405,058 priests (267,334 of whom are diocesan), 30,097 permanent deacons, 54,828 religious (not priests), 782,932 women religious (51,371 of whom are contemplative nuns), 28,766 members of secular institutes, 143,745 lay missionaries, and 2,767,451 catechists.

Compared with year-earlier figures, the total number of priests has remained stable (405,067 in 2001). The number of diocesan priests rose to 267,334 from 266,448 in 2001. The number of religious-order priests fell to 137,724 from 138,619 a year earlier. The number of women religious slightly decreased.

Major seminarians numbered 112,982, up from 112,244 a year earlier. Candidates to the priesthood rose 5.8% in Africa, 1.4% in the Americas. In Europe and Asia their number slightly decreased.

Of course, there will be variations from diocese to diocese. My own (Savannah) for instance, is doing rather well. Others, most likely those where the spirit of the world has replaced the Gospel, will be doing rather poorly. That's as it always was and will be.

Have a nice day.

66 posted on 09/18/2004 12:00:46 PM PDT by marshmallow
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Of course this has become another TLM vs. NO thread, with all namecalling. To me, it isint the missal as much as the reverence in how the mass is celbrated, and fidelity to church teachings.

Case in point, let me give two examples of parishes that only celebrate the NO mass. One is SS Cyrill & Methodius in the Detroit suburbs and the other is St. Agnes in St. Paul MN. They both only have altar boys, they both have no EMHCs, and they have kneel for communion, and both are known for strict fidelity to church teachings.

The result.............. St. Agnes has 11 of its young men in the seminary, SS. Cyrill & Methodius has 6 of its young men in the seminary.

One has to ask what works, and what doesnt.


69 posted on 09/18/2004 12:11:30 PM PDT by RFT1
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The Protestant ministers (deacons) are coming...

No worry; they can't break Bread or forgive sins. That's for Catholic priests. The clowns will do baptisms, and whatever Luther, I mean Rome, lets them do.

I'm so glad the French martyrs had their fingers chewed off for these clowns...


118 posted on 09/20/2004 11:35:58 PM PDT by Tuco Ramirez (Ideas have consequences.)
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Less is more. It's time we all take PERSONAL REPSONSIBILITY.


119 posted on 09/21/2004 12:20:38 AM PDT by OrionD.Hunter (98.6 Fahrenheit)
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