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Mahony Ordered to Release Files on Accused Priests
KTLA5 WB ^ | September 8, 2004 | Jean Guccione

Posted on 09/08/2004 4:59:18 PM PDT by sitetest

Judge rejects claim that prosecutors in sexual abuse cases were interfering with Church operations in violation of the Constitution.

By Jean Guccione Times Staff Writer

September 8, 2004, 11:33 AM PDT

Cardinal Roger M. Mahony was ordered today to turn over documents in the secret personnel files of Roman Catholic priests accused of sexually abusing children after a judge rejected his claim that prosecutors were interfering with Roman Catholic Church operations, in violation of the U.S. Constitution.

Superior Court Judge Thomas F. Nuss ruled that disclosing internal documents to criminal investigators doesn't violate the ability of the church to freely exercise religion, nor does it illegally entangle the state in church business. Rather, the state has a compelling interest in prosecuting child molesters, he ruled.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: mahoney; molestors; prosecutors
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I didn't see this posted.

I apologize if it's a duplicate thread.

1 posted on 09/08/2004 4:59:20 PM PDT by sitetest
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Cardinal Mahoney is covering up for his pedophile priests.

He and Cardinal Law ought to be tossed in jail.


2 posted on 09/08/2004 5:00:31 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault...)
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To: sitetest; sandyeggo; sinkspur; ninenot; wideawake; patent; Salvation; NYer; Notwithstanding; ...

Ping.

If you have a ping list, please ping this. Thanks.


3 posted on 09/08/2004 5:00:59 PM PDT by sitetest (Spitball Kerry for Collaborator-in-Chief!)
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4 posted on 09/08/2004 5:04:03 PM PDT by sitetest (Spitball Kerry for Collaborator-in-Chief!)
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To: sitetest; Marcellinus; dangus; TotusTuus; A.A. Cunningham

ping.


5 posted on 09/08/2004 5:06:46 PM PDT by sitetest (Spitball Kerry for Collaborator-in-Chief!)
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Well, I'm glad for this.

But this also means that Doran in Rockford will also have to turn over files, as well as Egan in New York.

Put it all out there, let the chips fall where they may.

6 posted on 09/08/2004 5:07:53 PM PDT by sinkspur ("What's the point in being Pope if I can't wear the tiara?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sitetest

I'm a little frightened of the precedent, but I hope they get him good.


7 posted on 09/08/2004 5:09:06 PM PDT by dangus
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8 posted on 09/08/2004 5:19:05 PM PDT by Coleus (God gave us the right to life and self preservation and a right to defend ourselves and families)
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I'll bet Roger bought an industrial shredder when he erected the Taj Mahony.


9 posted on 09/08/2004 5:29:50 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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Catholic Discussion Ping!

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Catholic Discussion Ping List.

10 posted on 09/08/2004 5:39:11 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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The only way for the Catholic Church in America to survive this scandal is through full disclosure. To cover up a crime/sin is in itself inherently criminal/sinful. The Vatican has been remiss in not fully addressing this issue; therefore it becomes the responsibility of America's Cardinals and Bishops to step to the forefront.


11 posted on 09/08/2004 5:44:43 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: wagglebee; Robert Drobot; Pio; ELS; pascendi; Convert from ECUSA; Viva Christo Rey; Maeve; ...

The American Cardinals & Bishops are the ones responsible for this problem. Some participated in it, and many covered it up.

The Vatican itself has nothing to do with this. Each Bishop knows what his duty is: in civil law, in canon law, and ultimately before God.

Due to some covert investigations, Rome knew of the situation here some 20 years ago. It told the Bishops here to deal with the problem - to throw out the trash! Instead, they swept it inder the rug.

Please do not blame the Holy Father for this! He has tried repeatedly since 1978 to get the American Bishop to be obedient, and to return to the faith. If they disobeyed overwhelmingly in that, it is no surprise that the scandals have happened.


12 posted on 09/08/2004 6:04:04 PM PDT by thor76 ("I'll fear not what men say; I'll labor night and day: To be a Pilgrim!")
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To: wagglebee; Robert Drobot; Pio; ELS; pascendi; Convert from ECUSA; Viva Christo Rey; Maeve; ...

The American Cardinals & Bishops are the ones responsible for this problem. Some participated in it, and many covered it up.

The Vatican itself has nothing to do with this. Each Bishop knows what his duty is: in civil law, in canon law, and ultimately before God.

Due to some covert investigations, Rome knew of the situation here some 20 years ago. It told the Bishops here to deal with the problem - to throw out the trash! Instead, they swept it inder the rug.

Please do not blame the Holy Father for this! He has tried repeatedly since 1978 to get the American Bishop to be obedient, and to return to the faith. If they disobeyed overwhelmingly in that, it is no surprise that the scandals have happened.


13 posted on 09/08/2004 6:04:56 PM PDT by thor76 ("I'll fear not what men say; I'll labor night and day: To be a Pilgrim!")
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Raj is going to J A I L.

I don't know if even his buddy Riordan can bail him out of this one.


14 posted on 09/08/2004 6:08:17 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (lex orandi, lex credendi)
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Are you in the L. A. Archdiocese? My pity to you!


15 posted on 09/08/2004 6:14:19 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: thor76

The buck stops in Rome. The Pope can make and break bishops with the stroke of pen.


16 posted on 09/08/2004 6:14:47 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: sitetest
Good. Let it all hang out. Regardless of what Bishop Gregory and some of the other bishops say and write, this is not behind us until the truth comes out.

Thank you for the ping, sitetest.

17 posted on 09/08/2004 7:13:30 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: Salvation

I am in the Archdiocese as well! That is not one for the brag box, either! Just a sad fact!


18 posted on 09/08/2004 7:46:45 PM PDT by AKA Elena (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!)
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To: sitetest

I can see why Mr. Mahoney is dragging his feet; they have estimated their potential losses from the suits at $1.5 billion in LA.


19 posted on 09/08/2004 8:29:01 PM PDT by Tuco Ramirez (Ideas have consequences.)
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I can see why Mr. Mahoney is dragging his feet; they have estimated their potential losses from the suits at $1.5 billion in LA.

He can start by selling that blasphemously ugly moment to himself he calls a Cathedral.

20 posted on 09/08/2004 8:49:42 PM PDT by Loyalist (This tagline has been put on hiatus for retooling.)
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