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To: Yosemitest

What exactly is the qualifier in verse 12 that would cause the actions in verse 15? "12 Else if ye do in any wise go back, and cleave unto the remnant of these nations, even these that remain among you, and shall make marriages with them, and go in unto them, and they to you:".

How in the world does that still apply to us today? And since when was that not put simply to the Jews of that time period WHO WERE LIVING UNDER THE LAW?? Were you planning on just throwing out the New Testament? If you are such a believer in the law, I do hope you are adhering to everything that was listed under the law, including animal sacrifice.

Romans 3:19-31
19 ¶ Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.


Colossians 2:10-17
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13 ¶ And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 ¶ Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.


9 posted on 09/06/2004 1:01:09 AM PDT by subedei
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To: subedei
I've got to get some sleep, before I work tomorrow, but...

Explain the following: Exodus 20:1-17 (and in this order) ; Matthew 22:37-38; Matthew 22:39; Rev 1:8, 11,17; Rev 22:13-14; I John 2:3-4: I John 3:4; John 14:21; Deut 16:1; Deut 5:28-29; John 15:10; Psalms 119:33-35; Psalms 111:10; John 14:15; Lev 23:24 (compare with Rev 8:6); Rev 16:7; Rev 21:3; Prov 7:1-3; Psalms 119:165; II John 1:5-6.

Then if you think you still don't have to obey the commandments (Remember the Sabbath),
then read


11 posted on 09/06/2004 1:38:48 AM PDT by Yosemitest
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To: subedei
Forgive me. I got sidetracked on a tangent and didn't properly answer your question.

To "cleave unto' is to pick up their customs and respect their gods. This makes our Heavenly Father and His Son, our LORD very jealous and very angry. He didn't want our minds polluted with 'other gods' and for us to go a whoring after customs that only lead to death and death of the second kind.

All who adapt to Abraham are spiritually part of Israel. Remember Genesis 48:1-22 and know that the United States is in the Manasseh tripe and that Great Britain is in Ephraim.

Please read EUROPE and AMERICA in Prophecy .

12 posted on 09/06/2004 2:09:13 AM PDT by Yosemitest
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To: subedei

I think the author was referring to the general precept, found in both testaments, that general punishment follows when people reject God's commands.

Homosexuality, for instance, is not only a sin (old testament) but a punishment (new testament).


15 posted on 09/07/2004 8:33:51 AM PDT by Gingersnap
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