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To: repub32
I've read scripture upside down and backwards, although I think bibles should all have a disclaimer that states "Read with extreme caution, historical context and council".

I have many versions of the Bible in the house and refer to many others regularly inlucding the Jewish Bible, King James, New International, New Revised Standard, Douay-Rheims and The Message.

They've all tranlated the ancient languages, Hebrew, Greek, Latin and Aramaic in many different forms, most of which was done thoroughly and tediously long before we were born.

Nowhere in any of the above is any credible reference to the demon seed heresy. Not by any of the major prophets, minor prophets, apostles, Gospels, epistles, revelations or Mosaic law. Never the less anything from our Lord Jesus Christ or God the Father almighty.

Nowhere in the history of the great religions, their prophets, wise men, saints, divinely inspired, theologians, priests, educators is any such heresy mentioned. The Pentecostals (who you for whatever reason you now have adopted) don't teach this.

One of the awful "benefits" of Eve taking the fruit from the tree of knowlege is that we somehow and sadly inherently now know the difference between good and evil.

Let's put that knowlege to work for a moment and contemplate; Are we going to heed all of what lies before us or the whisperings of some low-rent wayard "pastor" and some clowns who open a free Geocities site?

Matthew 16
18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

Jesus founded a church. He didn't intend for any ol' body to pick up the sacred Word and become an outhouse minister, without the filter of history, wisdom, education and truth.

God created all that is in nature, most especially man. His Son the Word become man gives all of us the opportunity for salvation.

You're a big boy and I'm confident you'll eventually find your way. You're allowed to step in it from time to time, as we all have over and over. Just think about it.

175 posted on 09/05/2004 9:55:39 PM PDT by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: AAABEST

Gen 3:15 God said that He would enmity between Satan's seed (offspring) and Eve's seed (offspring). That enmity produced the first murder!

John 8:39-40
They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

"Jesus knew who they were"

[40] But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Christ is speaking of the murder and the lies


In the first epistle of John that Cain was "of" (meaning offspring of) that wicked one. Plain and simply, like it or not, believe it or not, Cain was Satan's son, not Adam's.

1 John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

The word "Cain" in Hebrew is "Kajin", spelled with a "K", and so his children are naturally called Kenites, a transliteration (which is basically a letter to letter conversion) from the Hebrew to English. Look up the word "kenites" in a World Book Encyclopedia Dictionary. They are defined as the children of Cain (Kain-ites).

Matthew 23:29-35
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, [30] And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. [31] Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. [32] Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. [33] Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? [34] Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: [35] That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

1 Chron. 2:55
And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.

And by the way, the time of 1 Chron. 2:55 is well after the flood of Noah! Do you know what that means? The sons of Cain made it through the flood! But, how is that possible? It is really quite simple and we will learn the exciting truth of the matter when we get to chapter six.

Genesis 4:15
And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

Vengeance is mine saith the Lord (Rom. 12:19).

Cain will be used to fulfill the "negative part" of God's plan. Cain was marked by GOD and it was'nt 666 he was MARKED to suffer for the end times and GOD wanted his vengence on him no one else to hAVE IT. THe MArk of the Beast is the great FAMINE in the end not knowing or even understanding the word of GOD and the plan he has including the plan of EVIl which does have a bloodline.

Not only do the "tares" look like the "wheat" (Mat. 13), but you cannot reliably tell them apart by their names either.

[19] And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.

[20] And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.

[21] And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.

[22] And Zillah, she also bare Tubal-cain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubal-cain was Naamah.

Tubal-cain also means producer of weapons

It would be from the religions founded by this one, Cain, that all the nations of the earth would be made "drunk".

Rev. 14:8
And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.


Rev. 17:2
With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.



206 posted on 09/06/2004 11:11:20 AM PDT by repub32
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To: AAABEST

[25] And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

Seth means substituted. God has raised up another "seed" to take the place of Abel in the genealogy that would bring forth Jesus Christ, the Messiah.

[26] And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.

Enos means frail, incurable.

You need to find yourself a good Hebrew scholar like the one I see every week and besides yes I love the pentacostal church THey teach scripture not church and mans law and interpretation. I mean you sound just like the Pharisee's(kenites) telling me Im a big boy and I will find my way well I belive it is you who needs to find his way and I say that in the most loving way I can. I mean to say that there are only certain ppl. who are allowed to teach the WORD of GOD and that woman especially should'nt be teaching is such crap show me it in scripture backed up by more then just one scripture AND mke sure you understand if that scripture or not is being used symbolically. Christ himself never said that only certain ppl. can and should teach his word. Are you telling me the one person we both know who has been learning the WORD fo GOD for over 20 years now is sinning or that she has no right to teach. I doubt you have been able to stump her yet?you havebeen teaching learning for what a year and of course you are alwys right, come on now THE catholic church the Pharisee's teach their laws not the teachings of christ that is why so many walk out of the Catholic church to never return because they find no fufillment I know I have spoke to many. You dont even allow those close to you to search on their own When Christ tells us we are responsibleto seek out the truth and have the eyes to see and the ears to hear HE spoke in Parables for this very reason. (mat: 13)it is not up to you to stop anyone from learning,teaching or seeking out the truth that is more like Islam then anything to restrict one from finding the truth especially in the word of GOD. SHow me were it is Christ said only certain ppl. could lead the masses to his word??????????It was the Pharisee's CHrist had a big problem with for they loved not GOD but themselves and their laws and Jesus told them so. Even when he showed them with the miracles he performed they still ignored him.


209 posted on 09/06/2004 11:33:18 AM PDT by repub32
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