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WHO ARE THE KENITES? islamic facist killers are the blood line of Cain!!!!!
08/05/04

Posted on 09/05/2004 5:20:47 AM PDT by repub32

Who Are The Kenites?

1Chronicles 2:55 1Ch 2:55 And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, [and] Suchathites. These [are] the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.

This word Kenites in the Hebrew is the Strong's Concordance number 7017 and 7014. Below are the meanings of this word in the Hebrew.

7017--patron. from 7014; a Kenite or member of the tribe of Kajin:--Kenite.

7014-- the same as 7013 ( with a play upon the affinity of 7069); Kajin, the name of the first child, also a place in Pal. and of an Oriental tribe: -Cain, Kenites.

Cain in the Hebrew is 7014 also which further denotes the fact that we are speaking of Cain the first child the father of the kenites.

That is why 7017 says a member of the tribe of Kajin which is Cain. Cain is the father of the kenite tribe or family.

With that being said and clarified, lets now go on further and check out just who is the father of Cain and you will begin to see why he was so evil and could kill / murder his brother Abel. As well as why the kenites / those who claim to be of our brother Judah or a Jew and or not could kill Christ.

Genesis 3:1-16

Who is Cain's Father? Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

This word serpent in the Hebrew means a hiss of a snake or a whisper or magic spell and enchanter.

Subtil means more cunning and crafty usually in a bad sense.

This serpent is none other than Satan himself, as noted in 2Corinthians 11:1-3 below where the word serpent in the Greek means satan and these very verses are referring to what happened here in Genesis 3 with Eve. And how satan beguiled or holy seduced and slept with Eve, for the word beguiled in the Greek means to Holy seduce.

2Corinthians 11:1-3 2Cr 11:1 Would to God ye could bear with me a little in [my] folly: and indeed bear with me. 2Cr 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present [you as] a chaste virgin to Christ. 2Cr 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

Even Paul taught about what happened between Eve and satan. He knew she was seduced by satan.

Satan is asking Eve [for snakes cannot talk] hath God said ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? Bear in mind trees in the bible are symbolic of people.

In this garden we had trees good for food, as well as the tree of life [ which is Christ] and also the the tree of knowledge of good and evil [satan], as noted in Genesis 2:9.

Satan is going to tempt Eve to disobey God, just as he will us today if we do not stay sharp in God's word. Satan is a charmer who will attempt to charm you with lies that sound so right, yet they do not align with God's word.

Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

This is speaking of satan / the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, as noted in Genesis 2:16-17. Only satan could teach one evil ways. And satan is very wise and knows God's word better than most christians. only problem is he twist God's word to mislead people, as he attempted to do to Christ in Matthew 4. Even satan knows there is but one God, as noted in James 2:19 and trys to keep people uneducated about that one true God.

This word touch in the Hebrew means to lay the hand upon (for any purpose; euphem., to lie with a woman). Listening to satan's lies kills one spiritually to understanding the true word of God. We will see further on in this chapter that Eve did not eat an apple, but rather slept with satan and from that came Cain. This is why Cain is not mentioned in Adam's geneology in Genesis 5. Abel isn't mentioned for he was murdered and did not live long enough to produce an offspring. Cain has his own geneology in Genesis 4:16-24.

Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

Here we have satan tempting and trying to charm Eve to disobey God's word telling her you won't die like God said you would. This is satan's MO [ method of operation]. He is a charmer and trys to say it is o.k. if we twist God's word a little here and a little there so we can do as we like. Watch out. Do not be fooled by satan and only believe God's word.

Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Satan is lying here. For to listen to satan and his lies, closes ones eyes to the truth of God's word and makes one listen to evil instead of God and that which is good.

Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree [was] good for food, and that it [was] pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make [one] wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Eve allowed satan to snow her under with lies and she found him to be one handsome dude. She not only listened to satan's lies, but slept with him also as you'll see in a few more verses for their is a conception spoken of in a few more verses. He not only deceived Eve, but slept with Adam also [in my opinion]. For there is no mention of Adam knowing [sleeping with] Eve until Genesis 4:1, which took place AFTER she slept with satan and conceived Cain. Eve gave birth to twins and they had different fathers. This still today is medically possible and has happened. Lets take a closer look at Genesis 4:1-2.

Gen4:1 AND Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

When Eve gave birth she had twins. Cain was born first from Eve's first conception with satan. Yes she did get a child from the LORD, for all babies are a gift from God, but this does not change the fact that Cain was satan's son, as we will further document in this study.

Gen 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

Again in the Hebrew means she continued in labour. So here we see that Cain and Abel were twins with different fathers. That is why Cain was so evil and could kill his own brother.

It was not eating an apple that made God angry [no apple even mentioned here], but Adam and Eve listening to satan's lies sleeping with satan. Satan through this was trying to corrupt the seedline in which Christ would come through to attempt to disrupt God's overall plan of salvation and Christ being born.

Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they [were] naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

They were not trying to cover their mouth, but their private parts to attempt to cover up what they had done.

Gen 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

Trying to cover their sin.

Gen 3:9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where [art] thou?

Gen 3:10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I [was] naked; and I hid myself.

Adam confessed to knowing he was naked and that he was afraid of God for he had partook of the tree God told them not to touch.

Gen 3:11 And he said, Who told thee that thou [wast] naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

God is coming down on Adam for being disobedient to Him and listening to satan and allowing satan to deceive them. Just as today God does not like it when we allow satan to mislead us with false doctrine, that causes us to whore around with traditions of men instead of God's word.

Gen 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest [to be] with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

Here we have Adam explaining why he slept with satan and was seduced by him. Adam here saying Eve talked me into it. LOL Trying to place all the blame on Eve. If someone misleads us, it is because WE ALLOW IT to happen. Still Adam should not have fallen for it. Never go with the majority and ALWAYS study God's word and think for yourself.

Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What [is] this [that] thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

Here we have Eve explaining to God that satan had seduced her, which is what beguiled means. This is also what Paul was warning us of in 2Corinthians 11:1-3.

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou [art] cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Here we have God coming down on satan for seducing Eve. This just means satan is lower than a snakes belly. He is cursed and never going to amount to anything for he will ultimately be cast into the lake of fire.

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Seed here means child in the Hebrew. We know it is not physical seed like to plant in a garden, for seeds in a garden do not have enmity towards one another but flesh children do. This is why Cain hated and killed Abel. He was satan's seed / child. Abel was Eve and Adam's child. Also this refers to the fact that Christ would come through the lineage of Adam and Eve down the line and that satan through Cain's offspring the Kenites would bruise Christ heel on the cross and kill him. And in the end of this final generation Christ will throw satan into the lake of fire and use His elect to bruise satan's head by teaching God's word / truth to refute satan's lies.

Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Here we have conception mentioned. God is going to allow her to be pregnant by this evil one. Remember she has yet to sleep with Adam.

Now we will go to St.John to further document who Cain's offspring were.

St.John 8:33-47 Jhn 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

This word continue in the Greek means to abide or dwell in. Christ is telling those of Judah as well as us today who do believe in Him and abide in His word, that they are His disciples indeed. However, there are the Kenites who claim to be of Judah or Jews, but are not but are of satan, as noted in Revelation 2:9 to the church of Smyrna below:

Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Jhn 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Those who seek God's word and follow Christ the Living Word, shall know the truth and shall be free from deception and lies that put some in bondage.

Jhn 8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

Here we have the ones who claim to be of Judah the Kenites answering Christ back. They are in bondage all right to satan. Just as man today by false teaching have been put in bondage and do not realize it and think they are in good standing with God.

Jhn 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

Jhn 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: [but] the Son abideth ever.

Christ is the Living Word and it is forever and never changes, as noted in Hebrews 13:8.

Jhn 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

Jhn 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

I feel this should be translated I know YE SAY ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

For the next few verses from Christ will make that clear, for Christ himself is about to tell us these are not of God, but of satan.

These are Kenites sons of Cain the first murderer. Looks like murder is a family trait doesn't it?

Jhn 8:38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

Notice the capitial F in Father for God and the small f in the second father denoting not God, but satan. Christ is saying your traits are that of satan your father.

Notice here that these kenites sons of Cain off spring of Satan's son, are trying to convince Christ himself they are of God. Don't think if they tried this with Christ himself, that they want go around to this day claiming to be Jews or christians of God and do satan's work. This is their MO [method of operation].

Jhn 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

By their fruits ye shall know them. If they do not the works of God and those God sent that taught God's word, then they are not of God. Christ wasn't stupid and did not fall for their lies. And neither should we today. Not all false teachers are Kenites, but some false teachers have merely been deceived by the Kenites teaching and think it is God's word, so therefore they continue to help spread the lies.

Jhn 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

Christ knew they wanted to murder Him. They could lie all they wanted to, but Christ could read their mind. Abraham nor any of the children of God would have sought to kill Christ. Only someone of satan's offspring would want to do such a thing.

Jhn 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, [even] God.

Here we have Christ for the 2nd time confronting them telling them exactly who they are. Just as we today should study God's word, and know what does and does not align with God's word, whereby noone can mislead us.

Jhn 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

Again Christ calling a spade a spade. If they loved God they would have also loved His only begotten Son. They did not love Christ but wanted to murder Him.

Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.

This word hear in the Greek means to hear God's word with understanding. They could not understand Christ speech/ word, because they were not of God, as Christ himself is about to tell us in the next verse.

Jhn 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Here Christ tells them for the 3rd time for emphasis that they ARE NOT of God, but are of their father satan in the sense that Cain's father was Satan. He/ Cain was the first murderer in the beginning. Satan and his son Cain and Cain's offspring the Kenites are liars, as stated here by Christ the Living Word Himself.

Jhn 8:45 And because I tell [you] the truth, ye believe me not.

Liars usually do not accept the truth.

Jhn 8:46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

Christ commited no sin. These were trying to find a reason to kill Him to make themselves look squeaky clean and innocent. See how subtil and cunning satan and his offspring are. They lie and swear it is the truth and twist God's words. They kill many spiritually today by teachings lies instead of God's word. This is why one should always check ALL men out in God's word and allow noone to mislead you. There are still Kenites out there and then there are those who teach falsely who have themselves been mislead by the Kenlies and do not realize it.

Jhn 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God.

There for the fourth time Christ tells them and us today they are not of God. They are murderers. Offspring of the devil and sons of Cain the first murderer.

1John 3:11-12 1Jo 3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

1Jo 3:12 Not as Cain, [who] was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

This verse 12 here states specifically that Cain was of that wicked one which is none other than satan. This is why Cain could murder Abel. For he was the son that wicked one and was wicked also. The wicked one is satan.

Revelation 2:8-9 Rev 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive:

Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

Here Christ tells us that there are some / Kenites who claim to be of Judah or Jews, and are not, but are of Satan and are Satan's offspring which would be the sons of Cain / Kenites, for Cain was satan's son and the Kenites are the offspring of Cain. This will be further documented in the verses below that cover the parable of the tares.

Revelation 3:9 Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Here again a 2nd witness from Christ that indeed there are some who claim to be Jews and are not but are of satan.

Last but not least Christ also warned us of these offspring of satan in the parable of the tares, as noted in Matthew 13:24-30 and Matthew 13:36-43.

Matthew 13:24-30

Parable Of The Tares Mat 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

This word seed in the following verses in the Greek means :

#4690. Sperma; something sown, seed (including the male "sperm"); by implied offspring; specifically a remnant (fig. as if kept over for planting): issue, seed.

We are talking about the sperm / seed planted in the garden with Eve and satan as you will see when we finish this parable of the tares.

Tares are symbolic of the Kenites, who claim to be Jews or children of God and are not but are of satan.

Mat 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

Enemy in the Greek means:

2190. ekh-thros; (to hate); hateful (pass. odious, or act hostile); usually as a noun, an adversary (especially Satan):- enemy, foe. Many today are spiritually asleep to the true word of God and the enemy / satan works overtime pumping man's traditions into them and they don't even realize it for they have been blinded and lulled off to sleep by man's traditions.

Satan through sleeping with Eve sowed the evil children / tares / Kenites among the children of God. This would have never happened, had Eve listened to God and did not touch/ sleep with the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, which was none other than satan himself.

Mat 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

These tares looked alot like wheat till full grown. We are to test the fruit or what man teaches to see if it aligns with God's word or not. If it does not then it is not of God. Many people look christianly and say they are christians, but are they really? Are they teaching what aligns with God's word? By their fruits ye shall know them, as noted in Matthew 7:15-20. Especially verse 20.

Mat 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

Symbolic of God's children asking God didn't He sow only good seed or children? And why are there tares / Kenites then? See those who are truly children of God and know God's word, will be able to recognize and discern between God's word and man's and those who are called of God to teach and those who are not. They also can discern the ways of a Kenite and when one is furthering satan's doctrine rather than God's word.

Mat 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

God is telling us here that satan the enemy hath done this. The children of God asking do you want us to get rid of them?

Mat 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

God said NO do not get rid of the tares / Kenites lest you uproot the children of God also. You see many of God's children are so intertwined in the Kenites false doctrine that it is so hard to tell who is a GENUINE Kenite or offspring of satan and who is just an innocent child of God that has gotten themselves caught up in man's traditions. Even a Kenite can be converted, if they turn to God and leave their father satan's lies.

This is why we are to share God's word and let God through His word open the eyes of His children to false teachings and gently bring them back to Father's word and teach them to study for themselves and check ALL men out in God's word. This is how one breaks the hold of the Kenites teaching. Not by attacking the Kenites and stooping to their level.

Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Harvest time is when Christ returns AFTER the antichrist reign where satan plays or pretends He is Christ come to rapture you away. As further documented in this study The Truth About The Rapture Theory.

Those who flock to the antichrist thinking they are flying out of here will be gathered with the tares in danger of hell fire, if they do not open their eyes to the true God during the millenium reign spoken of in Revelation 20. God is against the rapture theory or fly away teaching, as noted in Ezekiel 13:20.

Matthew 13:36-43

Explanation Of The Parable Of The Tares Mat 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

Christ speaking only to His disciples here. The majority do not always hear God's word. Only those God feels can handle it at that time. Or as most call them God's elect

Mat 13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

God is the Father of the good seed/ children.

Mat 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked [one];

Here we have it again. The tares are the children of the wicked one, just as Cain was, because they are Cain's offspring which are known as the Kenites.

Mat 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

Christ tells us point blank the enemy is the devil, not a snake or serpent. This happened when Eve slept with satan and conceived Cain the evil one who murdered Abel.

Mat 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

God is going to cast all the tares and those who follow the tares into the lake of fire, IF they do not get their act together by the end of the millenium reign mentioned in Revelation 20.

Mat 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

This will happen on judgment day. So sad that some would choose to follow the kenite or satanic ways that will lead them to hell.

Mat 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Then shall the righteous have eternal life forever with God. Not all have ears to hear. Do you? Can you hear what Father is telling you in this parable? Be sharp and be wiser than satan for he is out to mislead and deceive and spiritually impregnate you with his lies, just as he physically impregnated Eve to try and prevent the Christ child from eventually being born. Today satan uses lies to try and prevent God's children from knowing the true Christ the Living Word of God.


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To: lupie

So the premise is faulty and it is an assumption, ok what is your interpretation then????????? and CAIN may not of survived but his FATHER SATAN did.


61 posted on 09/05/2004 9:02:36 AM PDT by repub32
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To: sirchtruth
Man I can't stand the Double Post Syndrome, otherwise known as:

DPS

62 posted on 09/05/2004 9:03:19 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Do you just think I fell off a turnip truck?)
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To: jla

SHE was deceived at no time ever did CAIN why do you think he was so jealous of ABEL just like SATAN of christ he never had grace from god even hius sacrifices were not excepted he was from the blood of SATAN are you telling me GOD allowed EVE to conceive evil or that because she ate from the tree that was her punishment in the womb. GOD doenst create evil he creates the potential for evil.


63 posted on 09/05/2004 9:14:14 AM PDT by repub32
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To: sirchtruth

Still no answer!!!!!!!!!! SO she ate from the tree and then sinned and that created evil,lol.


64 posted on 09/05/2004 9:16:42 AM PDT by repub32
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To: sirchtruth
Have you EVER heard of a son called SETH? (Gen:4-25)

You're right. Seth was not female, however.


65 posted on 09/05/2004 9:24:33 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: sgtbono2002
where did Cains brides come from? Were they his sisters?

Adam and Eve lived about 900 years without birth control. You do the math.

66 posted on 09/05/2004 9:27:43 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: repub32
Yes, on the 6th day He created male and female. Then in Chapter 2, He made Adam from the dust and Eve from Adam's rib. He did this after creating the race of men all over the Earth? Read in particular Gen 2:5. Chapter one is an over view, then there comes the detail of the creation of man.

According to the Bible, Adam and Eve were the frist two humans. Adam could very well symbolize the gender of all men and Eve the gender of all women. However, the Bible doesn't say that.

67 posted on 09/05/2004 9:34:32 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: sirchtruth
Eve slept with Satan? What Bible? It was ADAM & Eve. Cain was evil, but it was his own doing.
68 posted on 09/05/2004 9:37:26 AM PDT by madison10
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To: William Terrell

HUH??????????


69 posted on 09/05/2004 9:38:02 AM PDT by repub32
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To: madison10

Fine. Tell that to repub32!


70 posted on 09/05/2004 9:43:08 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Do you just think I fell off a turnip truck?)
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To: repub32
...So you think eve ate an apple,lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are you kidding me this is the problem with christians who cant conceive something so evil,perverted went on in the garden. Eve slept with Satan and she conceived Cain, it was thru the blood line of Adam Jesus was supposed to come but Satan tempted her to have sex with him so he could corrupt the blood line. Why do you think then GOD wanted to then have a chast virgin so he could have an uncorrputable womb to conceive CHrist Mary didnt have sex with anyone GOD put christ in her to conceive. So much more to this then these simplified answers I give check it out in light of Scripture. NO APPLE ever mentioned in the BIBLE nor is the Word Rapture for those that think Christ will rapture them away.

The above is total BS. The Bible says "fruit of the tree." You know, the big plants that grow out of the ground. Plus, as someone mentioned Adam slept with Eve & she conceived Cain & then later gave birth to Abel

To which moronic cult do you belong?

71 posted on 09/05/2004 9:43:47 AM PDT by madison10
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To: repub32

Much too long a read. Is there anything in it as to where and who Cain's wife was if there were no other people on the Earth?


72 posted on 09/05/2004 9:45:31 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: repub32
ADAM and EVE we're not the first 2 humans GOD created the races on the 6th day go back and read Genesis.

More garbage.

73 posted on 09/05/2004 9:48:23 AM PDT by madison10
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To: repub32
What is that you don't understand?

74 posted on 09/05/2004 9:48:45 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: madison10

So GOD created evil in the womb of EVE?????????? GOD does'nt create evil so to say he created evil in the womb completely goes against the theory of GOD creates the potential for evil he does not create evil SATAN does and Being CAIN had no grace fom GOD right from the beginning says to me that GOD knew of what blood he was and it wasnt his. GEN:4 3-5 and this before he killed ABEL and sinned. CAIN had no sin at this time is it not the sinner who needs to be saved and then can receive grace from GOD is it not the SINNER god wants the most????? SO why was CAIN even before he sinned not accepted by CHRIST?????


75 posted on 09/05/2004 9:51:32 AM PDT by repub32
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To: William Terrell
Cain's wife was probably a sister or niece. Adam & Eve lived a VERY long time: When Adam lived one hundred & thirty years, he became the father of a son in his own likenes, accoring to his image, and named him Seth. Then the days of Adam after he became the father of Seth were 800 years, and he had other sons & daughters. So all the days of Adam were 930 years, and he died. (Genesis 5:3-5 NASB)

Marrying a sister, half-sister, niece, etc. was not taboo then.

76 posted on 09/05/2004 9:55:09 AM PDT by madison10
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To: repub32
Uhhh, yes. That's EXACTLY what the Bible says. Eve's sin was disobedience. God told her to not eat from the tree & she did it anyway. Disobedience is the root of all sin in the first place.

"Pentacostal" what? Are you making this stuff up on your own, or is it what your church is teaching you?

77 posted on 09/05/2004 9:59:28 AM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

So were is it that it says ADAM and EVE were created 1st????????????????? if you read GENESIS ADAM and EVE are not talked about till god is done creating the earth and on the sixth day the races were created!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's possible they were created along with all the other races thats possible it just talk's of GOD placing ADAM in the garden.


78 posted on 09/05/2004 10:01:50 AM PDT by repub32
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To: repub32

The Hebrew word translated "man" is adam. In the manuscripts it is not preceded by the definite article 'eth and so it does not refer to a specific person, i.e. the word adam means human being or mankind, and no gender is implied. This is an extremely important point to understand. If you have a Companion Bible it will document it for you.


79 posted on 09/05/2004 10:05:36 AM PDT by repub32
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To: madison10

We are on the eighth day. God has just formed (not created as in chapter one) a special man to "till the ground" and has placed him in the garden of Eden to dress it and keep it. Why this special creation? Because it would be through this man, 'eth ha Adam, and his soon to be formed wife, Eve, that the Messiah, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, would be born. It was God's plan from the beginning.

And so, we better be prepared to expect that Satan will try his best to thwart this plan of God and to destroy this woman and her offspring! If we keep this objective (to destroy the seed line of Christ) in mind throughout the Old Testament, as we read it, we will better understand the events that took place, like when king Abimelech took Sarah, after Abraham told him that she was his sister, and when Judah took "foreign" wives, and produced "non-qualified" offspring, etc.

Let's now look in on Adam and see how he is doing.

Genesis 2:18
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Oh, the poor boy is lonely.

This particular verse should easily be understood by all those who have gone through puberty, i.e. Adam needed a woman. The fundamental things of life remain, "As Time Goes By".

[19] And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

These are the domestic animals, or better said, the "farm animals" that were created to compliment the "man to till the ground" whom our Father had just formed, i.e. Old McAdam, the farmer.

You will find, if you care to check it out, that in chapter 1 verse 24, God brought forth the beasts of the "earth", erets in Hebrew, meaning the "earth at large" or "wilderness", i.e. the wild animals (wild kingdom I like to call it).

But here in chapter 2 verse 19 he formed every beast of the "field", sadeh in Hebrew, meaning "country" or "field", i.e. field animals or farm animals. Once again, notice that these animals were formed AFTER the man was created whereas in chapter one the wild animals were created BEFORE mankind. These were separate creations.

[20] And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

This verse reveals that dog is not really man's best friend! So don't let anyone fool you into believing that line.

[21] And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

Adam was the first human being to under surgery. The Hebrew word translated "rib" is tsela, and it is derived from the root word tsala, which means "curve", not rib. And so it is that women are more "curvy" than men.

[22] And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

Some would speculate that the "curve" taken from Adam was in fact his DNA, which it may well have been. Although DNA is very "curvy" (if you've ever seen a model of it), not much in the way anesthesia and surgery would be necessary to acquire it.

I truly love this aspect about God's Word, when not much in the way of details is supplied to an event or occurrence, and we are left free to speculate and use good common sense.

[23] And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

While we are on the subject of speculation, do you suppose Adam witnessed the formation of some of the domestic animals that his Father formed and brought to him? It would certainly make the reality of this verse profoundly more impressive to Adam, knowing that this time God used material and substance taken directly from his own body. Think about it!

[24] Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Ephesians chapter five will document the spiritual aspect of being one flesh, and that husbands and wives should love each other as much as our own flesh.

But even so, it is true that when a man and a woman "cleave" together, their combined flesh becomes "one flesh" in their child.

[25] And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

They had no reason to be ashamed for they had committed no sin. Neither would any husband and wife, standing before each other naked, be ashamed, unless perhaps one of them had been unfaithful!

Genesis 3:1
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

OK, it is now time to "grow-up" and mature in the Word of God. Who is this serpent who was more subtle, meaning wise, than any other living, created being, human or otherwise, in the garden? ... a literal "snake" standing upright like we see in the Bible story books? Please!

Perhaps when we first begin reading the Bible and have only gotten to chapter 3 of Genesis, we might not be quite sure who this serpent is. But if we read the whole Word of God, there can be no doubt who he is and what he looks like.

Rev. 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

That "old serpent" in the garden was Satan himself, not disguised as a snake, but the creep is a "snake", in the figurative sense, of course! I've done business with some snakes before and they really are cunning and conniving.

Anyway, this old serpent has perpetuated a lie, a tradition, about the "snake" and the "apple" long enough. It is his plan to deceive a Biblically ignorant people with such trot, "because it ministers to the acceptance of his lie, the hiding of God's truth, the jeers of the infidel, the opposition of the critics, and the stumbling of the weak in faith." (Companion Bible, appendix 19, last paragraph.)

Again in Revelation 20 we see who that serpent was. He is to be bound during the millennium for 1000 years.

Rev. 20:2
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

The apostle Paul also made it clear who this serpent was in 2 Cor. 11:3:

2 Cor. 11:3
But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

The Greek word for "serpent" is ophis, which means "an artful, malicious person; (figuratively a snake).

Satan was beautiful and charismatic and charming, truly a glorious "angel of light" (2 Cor. 11:14).

Let's repeat Gen. 3:1.

Genesis 3:1
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

Notice that Satan is about to tempt Eve with God's Word. He is quoting God! Remember he tempted Christ in the wilderness with God's Word. It is his MO, his greatest method of deception. By misquoting and twisting the scriptures and causing people to believe the "letter" of what is written, instead of the "truth" of what is written, he is able to perpetuate mass deception on an uninformed populous.

[2] And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

Eve knew that she and her husband could freely partake of all the trees created for food. She also knew that there was a special set aside "tree", in a specific geographical location (in the midst of the garden), that they had better stay away from.

[3] But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

Satan has now brought into question the Word of God. So Eve, in her reply, omits the word "freely" (preceding 'eat thereof'), adds the words "neither shall ye touch it", and alters the certainty "thou shalt surely die" into a contingency "lest ye die".

[4] And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

Satan now contradicts the Word of God and tells the first of many, many lies, for he is the father of lies (John 8:44).

Unfortunately, we have exceeded our length of study for this day, so in the next episode we will go back and spend some time on verse 3, documenting the true identity of the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil", who dwelled in the midst of garden. We will also examine the Hebrew origin of the word translated "touch", because there is about to be a seduction in the fig grove. Don't miss it!


80 posted on 09/05/2004 10:11:39 AM PDT by repub32
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