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Marty, Marty, Marty. As a biblical Christian devoted to the scriptures and the truth inherent therein, I marvel that the Catholic church has abandoned Christianity and fallen to the level of superstition and foolish fables and heresies, the first pope was not Peter and the scriptures never made Catholicism the means of salvation ( by grace through faith are you saved and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God,not of works, lest any man should boast, for we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works which God hath ordained that we should walk in them). Mary is not an intercessor between God and man (there is one intercessor between God and man, the man Christ Jesus) . Please understand me and hear me on this, the Church is the people who have come to know Jesus Christ on a personal basis through grace by faith in the finished work of Calvary , that is we are saved by believing how that Jesus Christ died for our sins and rose on the third day for our justification and to trust our miserable good works does not honor or give salvation to mankind( ye who desire to be saved by works are fallen from grace), the blood of Christ is the only salvation and the faith of his work at Calvary is the only way to obtain salvation (who is he that over cometh but he that believes that Jesus is the son of God. We are all miserable sinners by birth because we are children of the first man Adam and condemned by his fall. This is what the scripture teaches. Christ is God the Word who became flesh and came as the Messiah for Israel and also for the Gentiles. At least half of what you talk about is not in the scriptures and is but man's traditions and have turned God's laws into mans laws. Also, the woman of relation is not the Church but rather is Israel out of whom Jesus Christ came.The apparent Marion revelations you speak about are but tales and fables and are not authenticated by the scriptures.
Search the scriptures, for in them you think you have life and they are they which speak of Jesus.

[Also, the woman of relation is not the Church but rather is Israel out of whom Jesus Christ came.]

Uhm, I meant the book of Revelation.

As a biblical Christian devoted to the scriptures and the truth inherent therein.... Please understand me and hear me on this...

Before I forget, it is Truth, with a capital 't'. With all due respect to your self-proclaimed 'title' wgeorge, you're ignoring a part of Truth, and that is that Jesus never commanded that the Apostles write anything down, nor did He do so himself. He called us TO DO... proof enough that Sacred Tradition matters.

The Catholic Church reasons thus:

1. "The apostles left bishops as their successors. They gave them 'their own position of teaching authority.'" (Paragraph 77)

2. "This living transmission, accomplished through the Holy Spirit, is called tradition..." (Par. 78)

3. "Both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honored with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence." (Par. 82).

If your mission is to evangelize -- apparently -- against the one, holy, catholic, apostolic Church -- perhaps you'd do well to KNOW ABOUT that which you speak against. I'd recommend your reading start here, Catechism of the Catholic Church - Table of Contents, and NOT Jack Chick. If you do not want the FACTS to get in the way of a 'good argument', you can carry on with your own personal interpretation of 'things'.

FReegards.

the Church is the people who have come to know Jesus Christ on a personal basis through grace by faith in the finished work of Calvary , that is we are saved by believing how that Jesus Christ died for our sins and rose on the third day for our justification and to trust our miserable good works does not honor or give salvation to mankind( ye who desire to be saved by works are fallen from grace)

George ... the Catholic Church is the ONLY church that follows the Bible 'literally'. Scripture also states:

"For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." - Ephesians 2:10

"Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works." - 2 Corinthians 11:15

"Who will render to every man according to his deeds." - Romans 2:6

"[This is] a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men." - Titus 3:8

"And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works..." - Hebrews 10:24

"Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by [your] good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation." - 1 Peter 2:12

"What [doth it] profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be [ye] warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what [doth it] profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent [them] out another way? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." - James 2:14-26

"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed [thee]? or thirsty, and gave [thee] drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took [thee] in? or naked, and clothed [thee]? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." - Matthew 25:31-46

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." - Revelations 20:12

"And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be." - Revelations 22:12

At this time in history I believe we should have faith, hope and love but make sure love is the prime ingredient in posting.

Anti Catholic apologetics wears thin when several denominations of Protestantism are starting to become interested in the Blessed Mother.

We all know that the Blessed Mother has been a turn off for most Protestants but due to the darkness of our age, I believe Christianity is rallying behind Mary to help her stamp out satan.

Try a Rosary. You might like it.