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To: Land of the Irish; LiteKeeper

***The same way He sheds His Blood at every Mass.***

LotI, this is not true according to Hebrews...

"And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God... For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified." - Heb 13


"After" he offered his sacrifice (Past tense) he sat down at God's right hand (present state).

Please note the reference to the "repeatedly" offering a sacrifice in direct contract to Jesus' "one time" offering.


Again...

"Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God." - Heb 12

He endured (not endures) the cross and the shame for the joy he looked forward to (and now experiences) at God's right hand.


12 posted on 07/16/2004 11:48:17 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Interestingly, there seems to be some sort of translational problem here.
And every priest indeed standeth daily ministering and often offering the same sacrifices which can never take away sins. But this man, offering one sacrifice for sins, for ever sitteth on the right hand of God, From henceforth expecting until his enemies be made his footstool. For by one oblation he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. (Douay-Rheims Heb 10:11-14)
But this man offering one sacrifice for sins, for evermore sitteth in the right half of God the Father [for evermore sitteth on the right half of God the Father]; (Wycliffe New Testament Heb 10:12)

"offering" is also the reading of the Vulgate, but the Nova Vulgata has "having offered".

14 posted on 07/17/2004 6:47:55 AM PDT by gbcdoj (No one doubts ... that the holy and most blessed Peter ... lives in his successors, and judges.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Thanks PM - I was thinking of that passage, but had forgotten the reference!

You are absolutely right. The amount of mysticism in the Roman Catholic Church amazes me. That is the danger of avoiding sola scriptura. There is no objective standard by which these ideas can be measured.

15 posted on 07/17/2004 8:47:19 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America)
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