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CATHOLICS AND BAPTISTS WITNESSED UNUSUAL IMAGES IN BLESSED SACRAMENT
Spirit Daily ^ | July 14, 2004

Posted on 07/14/2004 6:12:39 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 07/14/2004 6:12:40 AM PDT by NYer
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To: *Catholic_list; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp IV; narses; ...

An 'ecumenical' story to begin your day.


2 posted on 07/14/2004 6:15:49 AM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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To: NYer

As Adoration takes hold across the country, I think we'll be reading more stories like this. In our parish we have Adoration once a week. Our pastor says he has seen the faith of parishoners grow exponentially as a result. He's thinking of adding a second day.


3 posted on 07/14/2004 6:26:39 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: NYer

Wow. Truly amazing.


4 posted on 07/14/2004 6:51:49 AM PDT by Desdemona (Out of town July 15-August 3. Away from computers.)
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To: NYer

We have "perpetual" adoration at our Parish. I signed up for a designated hour about a year ago. I have had remarkable experiences in our chapel, especially while alone with Jesus. On one occassion, while staring at the large portrait of the DIVINE MERCY in our chapel, a white cloud began to envelop the room but the image of Jesus was shining through. It was a surreal yet peaceful experience. I've had many experiences in our chapel like this.

If anyone wants to take their relationship with Jesus to another level I highly recommend Eucharistic Adoration. It will begin to change your life in ways you never suspected. It will also become a part of your life you will never let go of.

If anyone would like to know more about this devotion and how it can change your life, please freepmail me and I will go into greater personal detail.


5 posted on 07/14/2004 8:19:11 AM PDT by Prolifeconservative (If there is another terrorist attack, the womb is a very unsafe place to hide.)
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To: Prolifeconservative

Thank you! for posting your comments. Here is an excellent resource on the history of Eucharistic Adoration.

REAL PRESENCE

6 posted on 07/14/2004 10:01:21 AM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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To: NYer

Has the Vatican authenticated this event?
I do not believe that Catholics can accept this as a "miracle " from God until the pope weighs in .


Seems to me , that different people saw different things, this sounds like a group hysteria .

Have you ever looked at a cloud that looked like something ?

This does prove the effect of group hysteria IMO


7 posted on 07/14/2004 10:07:53 AM PDT by RnMomof7 (Stubborn is worse than stupid.)
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To: RnMomof7
Has the Vatican authenticated this event?

Why should they? No one is proclaiming a miracle.

8 posted on 07/14/2004 10:18:27 AM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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To: RnMomof7; NYer
Has the Vatican authenticated this event?

No and I doubt it ever will.

I do not believe that Catholics can accept this as a "miracle " from God until the pope weighs in .

Perhaps. This is my Parish and I have spoken to a number of people who were there. They are convinced what they saw was a eucharistic miracle. Whether Rome weighs in or not doesn't matter to them. Also Father Bernie hasn't made a big deal about this. This story is about five years old, I don't know why it's being resurfaced now.

Seems to me , that different people saw different things, this sounds like a group hysteria .

Well it was a woman's retreat group that was in the chapel when this happened :-)

Have you ever looked at a cloud that looked like something ?

The host is not the size of a cloud but I see your point.

9 posted on 07/14/2004 10:33:16 AM PDT by pegleg
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To: RnMomof7

Haven't you ever had a revelation while praying? Our Lord speaks to us in the Blessed Sacrament. As Adoration once again becomes popular, I am confident stories like this one will become commonplace.


10 posted on 07/14/2004 10:34:07 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: Prolifeconservative
Beautiful! I also highly recommend spending an hour with Our Lord.

p.s. I also find little ones can sense the awesomeness of the moment and are usually on their best behavior. Or sleeping.

11 posted on 07/14/2004 10:36:48 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: NYer

I heard about this after it originally happened. The Pastor of my parish, Fr. Leon, told our Carmelite group about it. The two priests involved had contacted him after it happened and he had asked them why they hadn't notified the Bishop during the almost hour that it was observed. He told us that the priest felt rather foolish for not calling the Bishop immediately. This happened in the chapel of what was the older Church built before there new Church was built. They are still maintaining the older Church since it is part of the grounds where they have a school. Even though this is pretty close to where I live I have never visited their previous Chapel. While I found the story interesting and relying on my pastor's opinion to be credible, I don't worry about following signs. That Jesus is in the Eucharist is already something I firmly believe and I would prefer to rely on the eyes of faith.

Fr. Leon also told us that one of the people there that he talked to was upset that his wife who is a convert saw it and that he as a cradle Catholic did not. I would hope that I myself would not react that way. That hopefully I would rejoice in a visible sign given my wife and to rejoice that perhaps God thought that my faith was strong enough with out it.


12 posted on 07/14/2004 10:39:53 AM PDT by Atheist2Theist (http://www.splendoroftruth.com/curtjester/)
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To: pegleg
This is my Parish and I have spoken to a number of people who were there.

Wow! Has the experience caused them to be better Catholics? I'm asking not so much for your personal observations (though I certainly wouldn't avert my eyes), but rather their public Christian witness since this day.

13 posted on 07/14/2004 10:40:32 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: NYer
It was spiritual bedlam and it repeated itself at the same church four years later, during a men's retreat from October 18 to 19, 2003.

Now wait a minute. I was at the Mens CRHP retreat that weekend at St. Joseph’s and this is news to me. It’s interesting they don’t name a source for this part of the story but I suspect I know who it was.

We were having adoration in the Chapel on Saturday evening and ONE of the guys said he saw the face of Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament. I was with the majority of the guys and attributed whatever he was seeing to lighting and shadows. I was dark and the only light in the Chapel was from the flickering candles.

14 posted on 07/14/2004 10:52:56 AM PDT by pegleg
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To: old and tired
Wow! Has the experience caused them to be better Catholics? I'm asking not so much for your personal observations (though I certainly wouldn't avert my eyes), but rather their public Christian witness since this day.

My observation is the women who were on that retreat for the most part are very active in various Parish Ministries. And Father Bernie is a treat. This guy just celebrated his 50th year as a priest. He is about 75 years old and his 99 year old mother lives with him. He's always bringing her to various Parish functions. Also, when he offers Mass, his Mother sits in the front pew and he brings Communion to her. She doesn’t quite get around like she used to:-)

15 posted on 07/14/2004 11:00:53 AM PDT by pegleg
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To: old and tired

I have no desire to argue this out to a conclusion.

We know that there are many miracles that the vatican refuses to affirm. Without that confirmation it is strictly rumor, or the work of a charlatan .

I adore God, not a piece of bread, I trust Jesus to save me, not a piece of bread .

God illuminates through His word. To that end I would like to suggest that you read the account of the staff of Moses.


That staff which God used as a visible instrument became sin when there was more emphasis on the rod than on the one that ordained it.

2Ki 18:4
He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.

2Ki 18:5
He trusted in the LORD God of Israel; so that after him was none like him among all the kings of Judah, nor [any] that were before him.


16 posted on 07/14/2004 11:07:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7 (Stubborn is worse than stupid.)
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To: Atheist2Theist
I heard about this after it originally happened. The Pastor of my parish, Fr. Leon, told our Carmelite group about it.

I love Immaculate Conception. Father Leon is a little difficult to understand in the confessional though. I find myself straining to understand him. Father Keen is wonderful also.

This happened in the chapel of what was the older Church built before there new Church was built.

Actually it happened in the School Chapel

They are still maintaining the older Church since it is part of the grounds where they have a school.

We’ll always have the “Historic Church”. It’s considered a historical landmark and we still use it for Weddings.

Even though this is pretty close to where I live I have never visited their previous Chapel.

You should visit us sometime. All three of the Priests we have are wonderful.

17 posted on 07/14/2004 11:08:30 AM PDT by pegleg
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To: Atheist2Theist
The Pastor of my parish, Fr. Leon

Would this be Fr. Bartholomew Leon?

18 posted on 07/14/2004 11:11:50 AM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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To: RnMomof7
I adore God, not a piece of bread, I trust Jesus to save me, not a piece of bread .

A consecrated host is NOT a piece of bread and you especially, as a former catholic, know better than to post that comment.

That staff which God used as a visible instrument became sin when there was more emphasis on the rod than on the one that ordained it.

During the 13th century St. Anthony of Padua was reported to have converted a hardened heretic through a rather unique contest. The heretic, by the name of Bononillo, was unmoved by the reasoning of the "hammer of heretics," as St. Anthony was called. Bononillo was as stubborn as the mule that stood beside him.

Eyeing the mule, Anthony made an offer to Bononillo. He asked him whether he would give up his heresy if the mule were to bow down and adore its Creator present in the Blessed Sacrament. The heretic answered he would, provided he could lay down certain conditions: for two days the mule was not to be fed, and on the third day it was to be led into the public square. On one side of the square would be placed a tempting pile of fresh feed, on the opposite side Anthony could stand with what Bononillo contemptuously called the "body of Christ." Anthony agreed, but in all humility made one condition. If the animal did not kneel before the Blessed Sacrament, his sins alone were to be blamed.

The day arrived for this strange contest and the square was crowded with people. When the derisive Bononillo arrived with his half-starved mule, he was fully confident that his mule had sense and appetite enough to go after the feed. But he was wrong. Anthony had implored his Lord in the intervening two days for the soul of this heretic. God did not let his faithful servant down. When turned loose, the mule without the least hesitation advanced towards Anthony and knelt in an attitude of adoration before the Blessed Sacrament. With much emotion and contrition the heretic too fell on his knees and gave up his heresy. Of course the greatest miracle of all, transubstantiation, has to be viewed with the eyes of faith.

19 posted on 07/14/2004 11:18:18 AM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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To: Atheist2Theist
Hey, I've visited your "The Curt Jester' blog before. You posted this picture of Mary’s Fiat.

I thought it was very clever. Not to mention funny.

20 posted on 07/14/2004 11:33:57 AM PDT by pegleg
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