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To: gbcdoj; ninenot; BlackElk


I am not going to defend the typical Novus Ordo, and my preference would be to go back to the 62 missal with all the 62 Rubrics with the options for some Vernacular, but that said, the point of the link was to show that even the 62 missal could be trashed, and it was starting to be trashed by the same group who picked apart(albiet it was easier to pick apart) the Novus Ordo. Albiet the prayers in the Tridentine mass do point more clearly to the sacrafice, I ask this question, if the 62 missal was kept in place, given the same poor translation the Novus Ordo had, with the rubrics the Novus Ordo is typically celebrated with, would liturgical life in the church be all that much better today?


78 posted on 06/04/2004 7:04:57 PM PDT by RFT1
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To: RFT1
Even prior to the Council, Pius XII had given permission for the "Dialogue Mass."

It is simply inconceiveable to me that there would not have been a vernacular version of the Tridentine Mass, with or without Vatican II.

82 posted on 06/04/2004 7:10:21 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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Technically, what you propose is an impossibility--that is, that NO rubrics would be used in an Old Rite Mass. No can do, mon...

Further, the translation is SO bad, especially in the case of the Orations, that elementary Latin students can pick up the differences, if both the Latin and the English are side-by-side. In fact, you can pick it up from Spanish/English fascicles that are out today.

In some ways, the slovenliness is societally endemic, not limited to the Church. OTOH, many priests have not made it a point to be particular about their mannerisms.


97 posted on 06/04/2004 7:27:49 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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