[AskStPhilomena]

"Fr.Shirilla told a reporter for the Michigan Catholic that, regarding those who want the Tridentine Mass, "We have to fight them tooth and nail." Fr. Shirilla was relieved of his post in 1993 when he was identified as a serial child molester, who favored young altar boys, going back more than 20 years. He never quite lost favor with Cardinal Maida, however, and was secretly re-assigned seven years later as pastor of a parish in the Diocese of Gaylord, Michigan."

That's the take home message. Vehement opposition to the traditional Latin Mass is often a sign of a serious underlying disorder. It makes me wonder about the disorientation of some anti-traditionalists on this website.

[AskStPhilomena]

Isn't it strange how bishops (and cardinals) who hate the traditional Latin Mass will relent - only because they hate the SSPX more?
This would support your argument that without the continued growth of the SSPX, there would be no "indult" in the vast majority of dioceses.
Let's pray that the SSPX will continue to grow from strength to strength - forcing traditionalist-hating sodomite-sympathizers like Maida to make a more "wide and generous application of the Roman Missal of 1962".

[johnb2004]

It does make one think. Sodomites hate the Truth. They are turned over completely to their sin at some point. Very scary.

[sinkspur]

Vehement opposition to the traditional Latin Mass is often a sign of a serious underlying disorder.

What does vehement opposition to the Novus Ordo signify?

Let me guess: blessed enlightenment.

LOL!!

[dsc]

But...but...I thought the SSPX had *nothing at all* to do with the survival of the Tridentine Mass.

Oh, look: a unicorn.

[old and tired]

It makes me wonder about the disorientation of some anti-traditionalists on this website.

I don't think it's fair to say Novus Ordo Catholics here oppose the Tridentine Mass. I know I don't. I freely admit that Traditionalists have been shabbily treated and believe that the awe and mystery surrounding a Latin Mass would undoubtedly have a positive effect on many people who have drifted away from the Church because of the normalcy and ordinariness of a Mass in the vernacular.

Even sinkspur, who's about as modern a Catholic as you're going to find on FR, is not opposed to the establishment of a Tridentine Rite.

[old and tired]

I will be curious to read about this development from sources more sympathetic to the Novus Ordo. The way this article reads, it sounds like Maida's decision was a financial one - people leaving for other schools and dioceses. Of course, the decision was undeniably a matter of economic principle - the law of supply and demand. Whether Maida recognized the lack of a Tridentine Mass as a failure to minister to Catholics in his flock is the question.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Maida still doesn't get it. Offering a Traditional Mass sporadically is not going to draw the laity back from the "schismatic" chapels where people can experience a full parish life with traditional sacraments while *gasp* catechizing their children in traditional Catholicism.

[Unam Sanctam]

Cardinal Maida should be doing this in good faith implementation of Ecclesia Dei, not simply to compete with schismatics.

[Lilllabettt]

Where perversions are concerned, I think its much less a question of hating traditionalism or the novus ordo, and more a question of fidelity in general. In my experience, people (leftys and rightys,) who vehemently disagree with practically everything John Paul II says, all turn out like granola cereal: flaky, fruity and/or nutty.

[NYer]

For at least the last 15 years there have been hundreds, if not thousands of requests to Maida to grant permission for the Tridentine Mass.

Maida was wrong NOT to grant access to a legitimate rite of the Catholic Church. The pope authorized it, Maida should have complied.

[ninenot]

Anyone in particular, Phillie?

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Is it me, or is there something desperately wrong with this picture?

[broadsword]

Vehement opposition to the traditional Latin Mass is often a sign of a serious underlying disorder. It makes me wonder about the disorientation of some anti-traditionalists on this website.

My sentiments exactly! What is wrong with them?

[nickcarraway]

BUMP

[patent]

"Fr.Shirilla told a reporter for the Michigan Catholic that, regarding those who want the Tridentine Mass, "We have to fight them tooth and nail." Fr. Shirilla was relieved of his post in 1993 when he was identified as a serial child molester, who favored young altar boys, going back more than 20 years. He never quite lost favor with Cardinal Maida, however, and was secretly re-assigned seven years later as pastor of a parish in the Diocese of Gaylord, Michigan."

That's the take home message. Vehement opposition to the traditional Latin Mass is often a sign of a serious underlying disorder. It makes me wonder about the disorientation of some anti-traditionalists on this website.

By posts like that you reveal both your own “serious underlying disorder” and your dishonesty.

You try to tie opposition to the Tridentine to pedophilia. You then try to take it one step further and suggest that all those on this website who are against the nasty schismatic traditionalists like you are somehow similarly disoriented.

Grow up, if you can’t debate without childish ad hominems like that, you have no place on an adult forum.

First, very, very, very few Catholics on this website are against the Tridentine Mass. So even if your first line of BS were somehow true, that would hardly imply that those who oppose you here at FR are disoriented. I’ll use myself as an example. Before your currant screen name signed up I was a fairly active poster, and I strongly opposed schismatic trads like you. Yet, I also frequently attend the Tridentine Mass. So your logic about the “disorientation of some anti-traditionalists on this website” has quite a bit of a hole in it.

What we really oppose here on FR isn’t the Tridentine, but the schismatic tendencies of some folks who act like you do. Quite frankly, I rather doubt St. Philomena would act anything like that. If you are going to chose her name, you could at the very least not disgrace it.

So grow up.

patent

[narses]

"Fr.Shirilla told a reporter for the Michigan Catholic that, regarding those who want the Tridentine Mass, "We have to fight them tooth and nail." Fr. Shirilla was relieved of his post in 1993 when he was identified as a serial child molester, who favored young altar boys, going back more than 20 years. He never quite lost favor with Cardinal Maida, however, and was secretly re-assigned seven years later as pastor of a parish in the Diocese of Gaylord, Michigan."

Card. Maida "secretly re-assigned" a known "serial child molester" as pastor of a parish, how much more needs to be said?