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To: kosta50
It does not explain Trinity. Trinity is beyond our comprehension. It also does not suggest how the three Hypostases interact, the monarchy of the Father, the precedence of the Holy Ghost, the Divine Economy of the Three.

Nice dodge, but I am not going to let you get away with it :>)

Of course the Trinity is beyond HUMAN comprehension. That is not the issue. The issue was and is, where did the doctrine come from. It comes from the scriptures. That is where the basis of the creeds came from .

It merely states out-of-context phrases. These phrases can be read and interpreted in various ways. The fact remains that the word "Trinity" does not appear in any shape or form in the Bible and is therefore not biblical.

The word Bible does not appear in the bile either. That has nothing to do with anything.

All the heresies that sprang up in the early 2nd century and continued onward about the nature of Christ only testify to the confusion that existed among many believers as to the nature of God, even after the Bible was canonized.

To that I quote this scripture

1Cr 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

84 posted on 06/01/2004 9:19:24 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; kosta50

As an infrequent visitor to the religion section on FR, your discussion of the trinity is interesting to me, at least in its familiarity. I've had this debate countless times with other people, in other words.

I thought you might find this verse of interest:

Isa 43:11 - I, [even] I, [am] the LORD; and beside me [there is] no saviour.

Clearly this states that God is the only Savior, yet we also know Jesus as our Savior. To me, if anything "proves" the Trinity, this is it.

Comments welcome but I rarely debate my faith anymore. I like to read and learn others', but ultimately my faith is between me and God. I thought you might find this interesting though.

Thanks,


145 posted on 06/02/2004 11:45:30 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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