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New Priests for the LA Archdiocese to be ordained
The Tidings ^ | May 28 2004 | MIke Nelson

Posted on 05/31/2004 10:27:39 AM PDT by RFT1

Five new priests, reflecting a diversity of ages, cultural backgrounds and work experience, will be ordained for the Archdiocese of Los Angeles June 5 at the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels.

Fathers Robert Patrick Fulton, James Halley, Francis Aytona Mendoza and Rodolfo Prado -- all of whom have completed their theologate formation at St. John's Seminary in Camarillo -- will be ordained by Cardinal Roger Mahony at the Cathedral, along with Father Artur Gruszka who completed his seminary formation in Michigan.

The new priests will begin their first assignments as associate pastors on July 1.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholiclist; ordinations
Last year, the archdiocese of LA ordained 4 men to the priesthood, this year they are ordaining 5. The continued low number of priestly vocations in this archdiocese is a scandal in of itself. By way of contrast, the NYC and Chicago archdiocese, 1/2 the size of LA in terms of population of Baptised Catholics, both ordained 14 this year. The Washington DC archdiocese, 1/7 the population of the LA Archdiocese ordained 8 men this year, after ordaining 9 last year. Detroit ordained 9 men to the priesthood this year and the Newark NJ Archdiocese has 14 men to be ordained.
1 posted on 05/31/2004 10:27:39 AM PDT by RFT1
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To: ninenot; BlackElk; Canticle_of_Deborah

Ping


2 posted on 05/31/2004 10:47:55 AM PDT by RFT1
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To: RFT1

I thought St. John's in Camarillo was shut down?

Mahony's ordination ceremony should be interesting to see. I hope there are pictures for evidence purposes.


3 posted on 05/31/2004 11:00:30 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: RFT1; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...

How many have been ordained in the traditional orders?


4 posted on 05/31/2004 12:39:25 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: RFT1

Only five priests.............many dioceses had many, many more.

But then they have Adoration 24/7!

A sad thing for the Catholics of Los Angels Archdiocese.


5 posted on 05/31/2004 12:41:55 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: RFT1

We had a bad year. One. We had eight last year. Many of the men in the seminary here are being educated for other dioceses, as it turns out.


6 posted on 05/31/2004 1:06:50 PM PDT by Desdemona (Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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Your archdiocese is in better shape than many others, and the situation should only imporve with Abp. Burke at the helm.

On the other hand, the situation in LA has no excuse. Over 4 million baptised Catholics, at the very least, Cardinal Mahony should contact dioceses in Latin America to send him seminarians, as other Bishops have done, to minister to the Spanish speaking population, but it doesnt even seem he is doing that.


7 posted on 05/31/2004 1:21:19 PM PDT by RFT1
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Only the college seminary there was shut down, the graduate seminary there is still in operation.


8 posted on 05/31/2004 1:23:29 PM PDT by RFT1
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To: RFT1

"Cardinal Mahony should contact dioceses in Latin America to send him seminarians, as other Bishops have done, to minister to the Spanish speaking population"

He can't do that. What if the seminarians they sent weren't homos, and blew the whistle on him?


9 posted on 05/31/2004 5:55:14 PM PDT by dsc (The Crusades were the first wars on terrorism.)
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My guess is that Cardinal Rivera of Mexico City idea of a priest is dramatically different than Cardinal Mahonys vision.


10 posted on 05/31/2004 6:09:02 PM PDT by RFT1
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To: RFT1

Lord, I hope so!


11 posted on 05/31/2004 6:09:47 PM PDT by dsc (The Crusades were the first wars on terrorism.)
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Bishop Thomas Doran's Rockford, Illinois Diocese, bastion of orthodoxy and quite a tiny fraction of Los Angeles's archdiocesan population ordained 11 in 2003, 4 this year, 11 next year and has 33 more in the pipeline not counting this year's incoming class of seminarians. Many study at the diocesan seminary of Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz and others at Mt. St. Mary's in the Baltimore area. At least one is at the FSSP Seminary in Lincoln, Nebraska and one or more are at the seminary of the Tridentine Institute of Christ the King, Sovereign Priest.

Orthodoxy of a diocesan bishop will breed many priestly vocations. Marshmallowhood of AmChurchian bishops does not.

12 posted on 05/31/2004 8:09:00 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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The bright side, if one can call it that is Cardinal Mahonys imprint so to speak on clergy will be limited with so few being ordained to the priesthood in the LA Archdiocese. In Chicago, in addition to the 14 men who were ordained to the priesthood this year, 2 more were ordained for the SSJC to the priesthood and one SSJC transitional deacon was ordained.


14 posted on 05/31/2004 8:51:59 PM PDT by RFT1
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To: RFT1
Here's what's happening in some other seminaries:

Today's seminarians reflect growing trend

Number of Seminarians Increases - Please Decipher This!!!!

In Seminaries, New Ways for a New Generation

Seminary Springtime: Father Darrin Connall s Big Success

EVIDENCE GROWS OF DIRECT DISOBEDIENCE TO VATICAN IN MAJOR AMERICAN SEMINARIES

Pope to Church: Risky Seminarians Must Go

Priests Down, Seminarians Up

U.S. Priests and seminarians survey: more vocations in orthodox dioceses

Vatican Announces Surge in Seminaries during JPII Pontificate

Seminary Reform Needed in Wake of Sex Abuse Study ["the crisis in the Church is ... homosexuality"]

Homosexuals in seminaries? The latest.....

15 posted on 05/31/2004 10:57:43 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Many study at the diocesan seminary of Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz and others at Mt. St. Mary's in the Baltimore area.

Good day BlackElk!  Regarding your mention of Mount Saint Mary's, I could use either clarification or correction; my understanding is that Mount Saint Mary's in Emmitsburg, MD is an orthodox seminary, whereas Saint Mary's in Roland Park, MD (close to Baltimore) is the Lavender Palace noted by Michael Rose in "Good Bye, Good Men".  

Are we on the same page?  Pax et bonum.
16 posted on 06/01/2004 5:11:44 AM PDT by GirlShortstop
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To: RFT1

On the other hand, we in Tulsa ordain three to five every year...

some who were ordained were converts, who actually attended Oral Roberts University...

Reminds me of the story Scott Hahn tells, about a dying seminary where a retired priest prayed for years that the school would become a light to renew the church...but alas, it lost candidates and was sold to a protestant church to train preachers...several of whom, including Scott, later became catholic apologists in the real renewal of the church...


17 posted on 06/01/2004 5:32:06 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: LadyDoc

So prayer actually works!


18 posted on 06/01/2004 5:47:16 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: GirlShortstop
Our guys study at Bruskewitz's seminary or at the good Mount St. Mary's or at an FSSP seminary in Nebraska or at the Institute of Christ the King Seminary at Riscigliano or they don't study at all.

One orthodox priest in the Rockford Diocese had been studying in Chicago (where he was born) at the seminary of the unlamented Bernardin. He got in trouble for being Catholic and left, telling two friends that Rockford would not harass him for his Catholicism. Both seminarian friends said to him: Do you have room for us in your car. He did. All three are in Novus Ordo parishes in Rockford, are superb priests AND say the Tridentine Mass on occasion under Bishop Doran's long-standing permission to ALL of the priests of this diocese to say the Tridentine Mass.

19 posted on 06/02/2004 11:44:27 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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