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To: Quix

You have wasted no effort condemning "traditions of men" - were the Apostles not men? Is St. Paul not telling you explicitly to follow the traditions he and the other Apostles taught "by word or by epistle"?


156 posted on 05/27/2004 2:00:40 PM PDT by Fifthmark
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To: Fifthmark; All

You know where that Scripture is found.

You seem to be ignorant of these. Which word(s) do you not understand?




Galatians 1:14
And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.

Colossians 2:8
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
(Whole Chapter: Colossians 2 In context: Colossians 2:7-9)

1 Peter 1:18
Forasmuch as you know that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
(Whole Chapter: 1 Peter 1 In context: 1 Peter 1:17-19)




CHRIST'S STATEMENTS ABOUT SUCH:

Matthew 15:2
Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 15 In context: Matthew 15:1-3)

Matthew 15:3
But he answered and said unto them, Why do you also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 15 In context: Matthew 15:2-4)

Matthew 15:6
And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have you made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 15 In context: Matthew 15:5-7)

Mark 7:3
For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
(Whole Chapter: Mark 7 In context: Mark 7:2-4)

Mark 7:5
Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not your disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
(Whole Chapter: Mark 7 In context: Mark 7:4-6)

Mark 7:8
For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things you do.
(Whole Chapter: Mark 7 In context: Mark 7:7-9)

Mark 7:9
And he said unto them, Full well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your own tradition.
(Whole Chapter: Mark 7 In context: Mark 7:8-10)

Mark 7:13
Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which you have delivered: and many such like things do you.
(Whole Chapter: Mark 7 In context: Mark 7:12-14)

Given the sizeable number of Scriptures strongly exhorting AGAINST tradition(s) and especially traditions of man . . . one would think that a wise person would temper considerably any support for even kosher traditions.

But nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

The Roman group glories in it in layer up on layer of gold leaf, pomp and circumstance.

THEN they have the audacity to claim it's all necessary for SALVATION!

What's that Scripture about doctrines of demons?


170 posted on 05/27/2004 2:17:13 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Fifthmark

A consensus was reached around 300 AD that the body of the Scriptures essentially that we have today was sufficiently inspired and authored of Holy Spirit as to be considered God's Word.

I've found that in studying it and abiding as best I can with Holy Spirit's help--that it is indeed, God's Word that brings light and life to my being, my years, and my eternity.

Not even my own congregational leadership needs to intrude into that at all.


242 posted on 05/27/2004 3:58:47 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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