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To: conservonator
From the Pope: “The Church has also a high regard for the Muslims. They worship God, who is one, living and subsistent, merciful and almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has also spoken to men. They strive to submit themselves without reserve to the hidden decrees of God, just as Abraham submitted himself to God's plan, whose faith Muslims eagerly link to their own. Although not acknowledging him as God, they venerate Jesus as a prophet, his virgin Mother they also honor, and even at times devotedly invoke. Further, they await the day of judgment and the reward of God following the resurrection of the dead. For this reason they highly esteem an upright life and worship God, especially by way of prayer, alms-deeds and fasting.”

From you, "The main "inconsistency" you have demonstrated is your unwillingness to admit that the Churches teaching on the need of mohamidiams to convert to the one true Faith remains unchanged."

I'm not the one who is saying the Muslims don't need to convert. Perhaps John Paul need better speech writers.

18 posted on 05/13/2004 10:26:26 AM PDT by HarleyD (For strong is he who carries out God's word. (Joel 2:11))
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To: HarleyD
I'm sorry, could you point to the part where the pope states that Muslims "don't need to convert". I can't seem to find it. All I see is a man pointing out some of the similarities between Islam and Christianity and making a tacit appeal for Muslims to take the next steep into the fullness of faith.

Maybe I need to get my handy dandy Calvinist anti-papal reading glasses out...

19 posted on 05/13/2004 10:31:23 AM PDT by conservonator (Blank by popular demand)
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To: HarleyD

Just last year the Pope asked all Catholics to pray the rosary for the conversion of Islam. Isn't that what you would pray for too? I have not heard any idea from any Catholic or nonCatholic that strikes me as more intelligent,more holy or more likely to be effective than prayer,have you?


32 posted on 05/14/2004 11:01:11 AM PDT by saradippity
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